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Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:26 pm
by FlDuckFan
Way back in high school there was a girl in my drivers ed class that didn't know how to pump gas so we got to drive off campus for her to learn. Here in Florida it's normal to see a kid 13 or older pumping gas while the parent runs in to grab them both a drink or something.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:46 am
by Phenom
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Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:40 am
by nogerO
And how much more do you suppose you pay for your gas by having someone do it for you

Not to mention the ethanol they add to all your gas which kills gas mileage.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/USA

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:14 am
by duckduckgoose
nogerO wrote:And how much more do you suppose you pay for your gas by having someone do it for you

Not to mention the ethanol they add to all your gas which kills gas mileage.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/USA
As someone stated above I find that gas is cheaper in Oregon than in Washington. The few times I have travelled and filled in Washington that has been the case the last few years. Go figure! Sitting in your car staying dry, warm, cool and not smelling of gas!


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Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:40 am
by Alan
duckduckgoose wrote:
nogerO wrote:And how much more do you suppose you pay for your gas by having someone do it for you

Not to mention the ethanol they add to all your gas which kills gas mileage.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/USA
As someone stated above I find that gas is cheaper in Oregon than in Washington. The few times I have travelled and filled in Washington that has been the case the last few years. Go figure! Sitting in your car staying dry, warm, cool and not smelling of gas!


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One of the biggest reasons for the fluctuation of gas prices around the country is the state and local taxes added on to the price per gallon....... so is why Washington has higher prices than Oregon on average, they add more taxes to gasoline than Oregon. The biggest tax added to gas in Oregon is a road tax. I drive a diesel pickup in Oregon, been pumping my own for years, fact is many people pump their own gasoline in Oregon. I've yet to see anyone stuffed and cuffed for pumping gas...... yes I know it's a fine..... they just don't enforce it. The biggest threat is some kid pumping his/her chest out and informing you it's against the law...... most attendants just say thanks.

Finally, I have known for years that the other 48/49 (jersey can't make up their mind) are putting their lives in sever danger and risking the lives of everyone in a several block radius! How could the rest of the country be so wrong while we in Oregon know we are right! Keep Oregon weird! :roll: Yes tongue in cheek.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:38 am
by Phalanx
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:29 pm
by pudgejeff
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
That's a business tax, not sales tax. It's on the dealers not the buyers.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:40 pm
by woundedknees
pudgejeff wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
That's a business tax, not sales tax. It's on the dealers not the buyers.
Since it becomes part of the overhead of doing business as a car dealer, it nevertheless has a direct effect on the cost of purchasing a new automobile, ergo, it is effectively a sales tax.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:45 pm
by Phenom
So taxes trickle down, tax cuts don't...got it.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm
by Phalanx
pudgejeff wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
That's a business tax, not sales tax. It's on the dealers not the buyers.
It's funny: I regularly pay monthly sales tax on automobile purchases in both California and Washington. The Oregon one works exactly the same way. And it is based on sales. The rest is just semantics.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:14 pm
by nogerO
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
Surprise, Surprise!!! Oregon has another tax? You're kidding? They've taxed you poor f^&Cers until you say "No More Taxes!" and then they came up with a quaint little term called "user fees". You know snow pack beach access oxygen use fee road usage fee. Geez!

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:23 pm
by nogerO
Alan wrote:
duckduckgoose wrote:
nogerO wrote:And how much more do you suppose you pay for your gas by having someone do it for you

Not to mention the ethanol they add to all your gas which kills gas mileage.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/USA
As someone stated above I find that gas is cheaper in Oregon than in Washington. The few times I have travelled and filled in Washington that has been the case the last few years. Go figure! Sitting in your car staying dry, warm, cool and not smelling of gas!


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One of the biggest reasons for the fluctuation of gas prices around the country is the state and local taxes added on to the price per gallon....... so is why Washington has higher prices than Oregon on average, they add more taxes to gasoline than Oregon. The biggest tax added to gas in Oregon is a road tax. I drive a diesel pickup in Oregon, been pumping my own for years, fact is many people pump their own gasoline in Oregon. I've yet to see anyone stuffed and cuffed for pumping gas...... yes I know it's a fine..... they just don't enforce it. The biggest threat is some kid pumping his/her chest out and informing you it's against the law...... most attendants just say thanks.

Finally, I have known for years that the other 48/49 (jersey can't make up their mind) are putting their lives in sever danger and risking the lives of everyone in a several block radius! How could the rest of the country be so wrong while we in Oregon know we are right! Keep Oregon weird! :roll: Yes tongue in cheek.
I guess the people in charge must think the people in Oregon are too stupid to be able to pump their own gas without burning everything for a city block to the ground. Good thing those fine people in the state government have decided to control it's citizens for their own good. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:37 pm
by Phenom
nogerO wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
Surprise, Surprise!!! Oregon has another tax? You're kidding? They've taxed you poor f^&Cers until you say "No More Taxes!" and then they came up with a quaint little term called "user fees". You know snow pack beach access oxygen use fee road usage fee. Geez H Christ
Could be worse. We could be living in the South or Wyoming.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:19 pm
by nogerO
Phenom wrote:
nogerO wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
Surprise, Surprise!!! Oregon has another tax? You're kidding? They've taxed you poor f^&Cers until you say "No More Taxes!" and then they came up with a quaint little term called "user fees". You know snow pack beach access oxygen use fee road usage fee. Geez H Christ
Could be worse. We could be living in the South or Wyoming.
Keep telling yourself that.

Re: Gas pumping in Oregon

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:23 pm
by FlDuckFan
Phenom wrote:
nogerO wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
Sorry I can't recall or find in a quick look up the number of failed attempts at putting in a sales tax or self service gas. Most attempts at both have been through ballot measures. (Not counting this new rural only self service measure.) The pump your own were almost always well funded initiatives started and funded by the big oil companies that owned stations in Oregon. That in itself was kind of a kiss of death on its own and they were soundly defeated.

The voting down of sales taxes and thumbing of noses at oil companies became kind of a badge of honor for the state. Since these battles last happened years ago, I doubt younger people have the same emotional attachment to these issues.
Oregon now has a sales tax on new cars, they just called it a 'privilege tax'

http://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/busi ... taxes.aspx

It will eventually happen in increments, like every tax, and the increments, once established, will be used as an argument for implementing the full sales tax.
Surprise, Surprise!!! Oregon has another tax? You're kidding? They've taxed you poor f^&Cers until you say "No More Taxes!" and then they came up with a quaint little term called "user fees". You know snow pack beach access oxygen use fee road usage fee. Geez H Christ
Could be worse. We could be living in the South or Wyoming.

Florida isn't that bad , it's just always hot and humid.