We also learned that they're 0 for 2 on 4th qtr comebacks.
Who are "they" though? Plenty of Ducks on the roster have been there for come-from-behind wins. Are you talking about Prukop specifically? Do you think two games is really a large enough sample size to gauge whether a QB can win in the clutch?
We did learn they're 0 for 2 in fourth-quarter comebacks -- that is true -- but I'm not sure what kind of meaningful conclusion you're going to draw from that, other than the literal win/loss record.
What did I mean is that out of 2 attempts this year they've pulled it off zero times. This one surprised me as Prukop and the team have been very good in the redzone.
Is two games enough sample size , I'm not sure. My only hesitation with that was that both times it came down to Prukop and against Nebraska he saw ghosts and fled from the pocket to soon instead of trying to at least heave it and hope. ( all be it the penalty was not his fault ) This week he threw a really bad back corner fade route, no question about it and if you ask him tomorrow after he sees film he'll even tell you it was a bad throw.
I'm not on the bench Prukop and start Herbert train , I just want people to actually watch the game, although sometimes I will admit I get to emotional about it. After the NEbraska game I was upset but the next day I re-evaluated and was very encouraged with the progress the offensive line is making and even some parts of the defense that game.
I don't think Prukop is the problem. I think it is the coaching... the defense... the penalties.. the lack of having some coach who seemingly is more concerned about being nice... than is bout getting in someone's face when they need a butt chewing I will always be a duck... but we are heading towards a 6 or 7 win season if we are lucky. Hopefully Helfrich is done. This was the last straw and he needs to be shown the door. Losing at home to team that is picked dead last not acceptable period.. Show the guy the door.
GoDucksIn09 wrote:I don't think Prukop is the problem. I think it is the coaching... the defense... the penalties.. the lack of having some coach who seemingly is more concerned about being nice... than is bout getting in someone's face when they need a butt chewing I will always be a duck... but we are heading towards a 6 or 7 win season if we are lucky. Hopefully Helfrich is done. This was the last straw and he needs to be shown the door. Losing at home to team that is picked dead last not acceptable period.. Show the guy the door.
Except Colorado is nowhere near as bad as they've been and likely don't deserve to be viewed as the worst team in the conference, especially after the way they played at Michigan.
Colorado is better....but they also couldn't have gotten any worse. No excuses for losing to Colorado. I don't care about injuries or anything else. We should have beaten an inferior(yes improved) opponent at home.
woundedknees wrote:Remind me how many INTs Prukop has thrown this season?
Given the amount of pressure he is under on a regular basis, it's somewhat amazing.
That stat is a lot more complicated, there is a big difference between INT's thrown and INT's caught. I don't know the number, but is for sure a lot more than zero. But be honest, to me that isn't his biggest problem. He doesn't seem to have the arm talent to stretch defense's and you're seeing the rest of the offense struggle because of it.
woundedknees wrote:Remind me how many INTs Prukop has thrown this season?
Given the amount of pressure he is under on a regular basis, it's somewhat amazing.
That stat is a lot more complicated, there is a big difference between INT's thrown and INT's caught. I don't know the number, but is for sure a lot more than zero. But be honest, to me that isn't his biggest problem. He doesn't seem to have the arm talent to stretch defense's and you're seeing the rest of the offense struggle because of it.
Exactly. Prukop had a pass that should have been picked a play or two before the actual pick. He has played 'safe', but hasen't thrown many deep balls. I absolutely loathe the offensive game calling. I loathe the receiver screen with zero blocking, if the Ducks don't make the D pay with the long ball. It just doesn't make sense. Why no,screen play with blockers? Inside screen? Ever heard of it? The 10yd curl by Stanford is the first I've seen all season. So easy, yet they never run it. This offensive play calling is seriously offensive.
What I am honestly seeing, is defenses are not fooled by anything the offense is running. Yes, the D has its issues, but the O is actually the lame part. They don't fool anyone any longer.
Everythingsducky wrote:What I am honestly seeing, is defenses are not fooled by anything the offense is running. Yes, the D has its issues, but the O is actually the lame part. They don't fool anyone any longer.
Nope. Speed is our only advantage now and that is pretty much nullified by our inexperienced O-Line and QB.
OregonFan4life -
My source just said Chip is officially back!
It will be announced at Autzen press conference tomorrow afternoon!
I've been a fan for ages, and supporting the team doesn't mean making excuses for failure.
Colorado is a terrible team even if they've improved. The ducks are 2-2 with losses to middling Nebraska and doormat Colorado.
It's not an overreaction to call out the lack of preparation, fundamentals, and play calling by this coaching staff.
I'd like to see these young men succeed and reach their potential.
I doubt many here aren't making excuses as much as simply looking at the facts. It's easier to sling blame around then to realize the facts. I wonder if Harbaugh think Colorado is a terrible team. I will agree however that the DB's need to go back to the fundamentals of tacking, Schooler seems to be the only guy that knows how to wrap up.
Should be a question coaches ask when recruiting a defensive player... can you tackle consistently through 4 quarters or do you think arm tackling or going for a big hit and whiffing gets it done. When recruiting receivers expect them to catch the ball and make defenders miss. It seems the coaching staff does not know how to get the kids to learn how to tackle.
