Lyerla in trouble again

[Juice]

http://www.dailyemerald.com/2017/03/28/ ... probation/

Yesterday, just two weeks after being sentenced to 18-months probation, Lyerla was arrested for heroin possession and forgery.

Really sad to hear. I'm hoping he can eventually get himself clean.

[justducky0]

Dude is a waste.

[UOducksTK1]

Man..

[greenyellow]

At the rate he's going, he's either going to be a lifer in prison/jail or dead before he's 40.

[duckfan22]

should be playing on Sudays in the nfl. But instead looks like he will be behind bars
instead for awhile.. He's had so many chances. Its a shame.

[Alan]

should be playing on Sudays in the nfl. But instead looks like he will be behind bars
instead for awhile.. He's had so many chances. Its a shame.

X2, he could have been early round draft choice and living in comfort, it's sad. Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

[Handsome Dan]

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

[lmduck]

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

Dan- many, many people at Oregon tried to help Colt. Many went way above and beyond using personal resources. Many people including MH sought help and guidance from professionals for Colt. Colt was given way more opportunities than others. To say he has been failed by many people is a very inaccurate statement. Yes, there certainly are some family members who have failed him, but I can tell you MANY people at UO attempted to help this guy multiple times. He chose not to take advantage of it.


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[Alan]

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

You know as little as anyone of us know about what Colt is dealing with. How many interventions does it take? Colt is the one making the choices he makes, numerous people have reached out, including the legal system..... he was on parol when he go busted. There's a good chance in 10 years we'll read a story about how "once football star got lost in drugs and was found dead". I'm not saying it's too late for help, I'm saying Colt has got to want it for it to work......he clearly doesn't want it.

[OregonFan4Life]

If only he went to USC, then none of this ever would've happened.


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[OregonFan4Life]

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

You're actually the one that's very very incorrect. I may not have liked Helf as a coach but he handled this right, and so did Chip. Colt's problem is he refuses to listen to anyone and he avoids addressing the fact that he has problems. I have a lot of insight as to Colt while he was at the UofO, there was a reason he had the nickname "Coke" Lyerla. He also caused a lot of trouble in bars and almost always needed to be escorted by bouncers. I do feel bad for Colt's upbringing, but he has had all the resources to clean himself up and have a very successful career in the NFL, but instead he keeps choosing the easy route and doesn't work to better himself. There's nobody but Colt to blame for that.


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[Handsome Dan]

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

Dan- many, many people at Oregon tried to help Colt. Many went way above and beyond using personal resources. Many people including MH sought help and guidance from professionals for Colt. Colt was given way more opportunities than others. To say he has been failed by many people is a very inaccurate statement. Yes, there certainly are some family members who have failed him, but I can tell you MANY people at UO attempted to help this guy multiple times. He chose not to take advantage of it.


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Is there more detail on that? How involved were the professionals, which kinds, and so forth? I'll definitely concede that I'm not well aware of how things went at Oregon, but with what you gave me I can't be sure if they actually got him the help he needed.

Also note that I'm not saying they intentionally failed him; that'd be highly questionable given Helfrich's personality and ludicrous after what you wrote here. But trying to help someone and actually helping them aren't the same thing.

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

You know as little as anyone of us know about what Colt is dealing with. How many interventions does it take? Colt is the one making the choices he makes, numerous people have reached out, including the legal system..... he was on parol when he go busted. There's a good chance in 10 years we'll read a story about how "once football star got lost in drugs and was found dead". I'm not saying it's too late for help, I'm saying Colt has got to want it for it to work......he clearly doesn't want it.

Maybe he does want it but feels trapped in a hopeless morass he can't escape? I'm not sure it's the best idea to tell me that no one knows what Colt is dealing with and then three sentences later make a statement that implicitly contradicts it (you can't say something is "clearly" without presuming to know with a lot of certainty).

Regarding the legal system, it's not necessarily the best at getting mentally unhealthy people the treatment they need.

He needs treatment, not judgement. He's been failed by many people along the way, starting with his parents. It's a shame Helfrich didn't understand how to handle him properly, because his time at Oregon was the best opportunity for a successful intervention.

Who to blame? His mom? No doubt the blame lays on him...sad and yes, he's probably not done making headline, just sad.

This is very, very incorrect.

You're actually the one that's very very incorrect. I may not have liked Helf as a coach but he handled this right, and so did Chip. Colt's problem is he refuses to listen to anyone and he avoids addressing the fact that he has problems. I have a lot of insight as to Colt while he was at the UofO, there was a reason he had the nickname "Coke" Lyerla. He also caused a lot of trouble in bars and almost always needed to be escorted by bouncers. I do feel bad for Colt's upbringing, but he has had all the resources to clean himself up and have a very successful career in the NFL, but instead he keeps choosing the easy route and doesn't work to better himself. There's nobody but Colt to blame for that.


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I don't think you understand how much damage a bad upbringing can have on someone, or why someone might choose the "easy" way out when they're mired in a cycle of misery and hopelessness. You seem insistent on blaming Colt without considering the complexity of the situation, which I'd argue is taking the easy way out in regards to providing an opinion on this issue.

I'll just leave some questions here for you to think about:

1. Why did Colt not listen to anyone and refuse to admit he has a problem?

2. Why did he develop a hard drug habit in high school?

3. Why did he have obvious issues containing his anger?

In other words, what do you think could be responsible for all those bad behaviors you identified?

[Duck24]

At some point it's personal responsibility, plain and simple as that. There are certainly mitigating factors and predispositions but you can't continue to make excuses for the decision making. Continuing to make excuses and otherwise justifying he actions is just a form of enabling.

Ultimately it's up to Colt to make the decision to change and maybe he just isn't ready yet. You can only hope he makes that decision before he ends up with a lengthy sentence or dead.

[dthomas=ddixon]

At some point it's personal responsibility, plain and simple as that. There are certainly mitigating factors and predispositions but you can't continue to make excuses for the decision making. Continuing to make excuses and otherwise justifying he actions is just a form of enabling.

Ultimately it's up to Colt to make the decision to change and maybe he just isn't ready yet. You can only hope he makes that decision before he ends up with a lengthy sentence or dead.

Agreed.

Colt's story is a tragic one and a large part of that tragedy is the lack of personal responsibility. People excusing his behavior and telling him it's not his fault has likely contributed to his failings. We live in a grievance culture that promotes victim-hood and lack of personal responsibility and it's done nothing but harm the people who need the most help.

[duckfan22]

Addiction of any kind is tough. On a personal level my wife in the last 20 years has tried everything
to stop smoking. Has all the excuses of why she cant. It has to be her who stops i cant make her.
My daughter is in her 2nd go around trying to quit Meth. She has low self esteem and Meth is her crutch.
She's smart and talented but does not belive in herself. She has been in a abusive marriage that the ex
destroyed any amount of self esteem she had. She is doing good this time around but its tough.
Colt i bet doesnt believe he has a problem. I bet he also thinks he's indistructable.