Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN)
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Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN)
4-3 Washington State @ 6-1 Oregon
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
Things didn't go well after the big, emotional win over the Huskies last season. Can the Ducks avoid an emotional letdown?
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
Neither team the same as last year. Washington state was a much better team last year than this year. They have still won 4 in a row against Oregon. That means no senior has beat Washington State. I think they will want to change that. I think Oregon wins but this will not be an easy win.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
WSU pass defense showed up after having gone awol, but Oregon at home will really test them. WSU Defense has given Oregon fits trying to run the ball against for the past couple of years. They stunt shift and penetrate like Montana did.
I saw some things in the second half of the UW game that gave me some hope the running game is ready to improve and have fewer 2 yard and less carries. First is they addressed the backside defender on run plays with an actual blocker instead of relying on the QB option to occupy him which everyone is ignoring. So many of our little to no gain runs have been from backs getting hit on their blindside from unblocked backside defenders coming behind the blocking unimpeded. By addressing the backside with an actual blocker, you do reduce the number of blockers at the point of attack and second level so you might lose some big play potential but backs getting hit in the backfield so often sucks and negates the advantage your line has over the guys in front of them. A practical compromise acknowledging that no ones buying Herbert's run fakes.
Secondly, 33 besides being big and strong, has the best vision and moves to pick the right hole while running from the pistol. He might not get the 15 yard bursts that CJ does but his median average is much better. The more we see 33 running the pistol plays and 7 and 26 running from shot gun the better.
I saw some things in the second half of the UW game that gave me some hope the running game is ready to improve and have fewer 2 yard and less carries. First is they addressed the backside defender on run plays with an actual blocker instead of relying on the QB option to occupy him which everyone is ignoring. So many of our little to no gain runs have been from backs getting hit on their blindside from unblocked backside defenders coming behind the blocking unimpeded. By addressing the backside with an actual blocker, you do reduce the number of blockers at the point of attack and second level so you might lose some big play potential but backs getting hit in the backfield so often sucks and negates the advantage your line has over the guys in front of them. A practical compromise acknowledging that no ones buying Herbert's run fakes.
Secondly, 33 besides being big and strong, has the best vision and moves to pick the right hole while running from the pistol. He might not get the 15 yard bursts that CJ does but his median average is much better. The more we see 33 running the pistol plays and 7 and 26 running from shot gun the better.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
Time to make the pirate walk the plank. Aarrrgh!
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
Seems high to me. Oregon is at home and I think our defense will want to show better than Saturday.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
It does worry me a bit if Lenoir is out against the air raid, but I still think Oregon just has too much talent for WSU, especially at home. The front seven needs to pressure Gordon! It took the defense way too long to get pressure on Eason, they need to do better against WSU.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:It does worry me a bit if Lenoir is out against the air raid, but I still think Oregon just has too much talent for WSU, especially at home. The front seven needs to pressure Gordon! It took the defense way too long to get pressure on Eason, they need to do better against WSU.
Yeah I’d like to see some blitzes starting in the first quarter.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
When I was watching the game i was also thinking what was going on? We didn't get much pressure on Eason until the 4th quarter. After the game, I saw an analysis that UW had 12 uncalled holding calls against us in the game. That might help explain why we weren't getting much QB pressure throughout the game and makes me feel better about our rushing attack.OregonFan4Life wrote:It does worry me a bit if Lenoir is out against the air raid, but I still think Oregon just has too much talent for WSU, especially at home. The front seven needs to pressure Gordon! It took the defense way too long to get pressure on Eason, they need to do better against WSU.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
A point spread I would pass on placing a bet on one way or the other. We don't know how Coach A will choose to defend the Air Raid and how you do against other offenses doesn't count for squat.
This will be the first game in awhile I'll go into the game more confident in the offense than the defense. I think Mario has learned (he says he has) and will let Herbert do his thing if once again we cant run on the Cougs. If we can run on them, I think we'll put 50 on the board.
This will be the first game in awhile I'll go into the game more confident in the offense than the defense. I think Mario has learned (he says he has) and will let Herbert do his thing if once again we cant run on the Cougs. If we can run on them, I think we'll put 50 on the board.
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Re: Washington State @ #11 Oregon (Oct. 26, Sat 7:30 PM ESPN
"I'm SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING TO WAZZU!" (bobby knight i'm sick and tired of losing to Purdue voice, *throws chair*).
Avalos won't be clueless against the Air Raid like some past DC's.
Hoping Lenoir can go though.
Avalos won't be clueless against the Air Raid like some past DC's.
Hoping Lenoir can go though.