Ducks played rough on Saturday. It seemed like the strategy for the Oregon defense was to bump the receivers off of their route. Some of the 'bumps' turned into flat out putting them on the ground. One of those, ISM got caught for a personal foul doing it to Amon Ra St Brown, and another time Breeze bumped Vaughns off balance and he fell and Lenoir got the pick. Similarly, it seemed like the strategy was to find ways to hit Slovis and make him uncomfortable all night, and there were a few penalties, and at least one that wasn't called but should have been. The one where Troy Dye was going all WWE on him was egregious. I think though that the strategy had its effect and the Trojan receivers weren't able to run amok the way they have against other teams. In the end, I guess you live with the penalties, and some of the whining from opposing fans, and I include Joel Klatt in that number. He was obviously livid about the Lenoir pick and went on and on about it.
Oregon actually reminds me of past Stanford teams. Tough on the lines, tough quarterback, and a big receiver doing fade routes that basically can't be defended. Wright's TD return was an added element though that recalled old Oregon teams under Chip. I think this game showed the nation what Oregon can be down the stretch. We have been thinking the ducks aren't a playoff team, but they sure look like one with Juwan Johnson healthy and Wright returning kicks like that. They just became more dangerous in two areas they really weren't before.
Schematically, it is like Stanford, & I think, philosophically, this is what Cristobal is building at Oregon, The tough play in the secondary is SEC , whining from the opposing fans, especially on the road, fruits of their labors. Oregon used to get grief from fans of other teams under Chip. But this is different. That was the gimmick offense and finesse. This isn't that.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:07 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
Phalanx wrote:
Ducks played rough on Saturday. It seemed like the strategy for the Oregon defense was to bump the receivers off of their route. Some of the 'bumps' turned into flat out putting them on the ground. One of those, ISM got caught for a personal foul doing it to Amon Ra St Brown, and another time Breeze bumped Vaughns off balance and he fell and Lenoir got the pick. Similarly, it seemed like the strategy was to find ways to hit Slovis and make him uncomfortable all night, and there were a few penalties, and at least one that wasn't called but should have been. The one where Troy Dye was going all WWE on him was egregious. I think though that the strategy had its effect and the Trojan receivers weren't able to run amok the way they have against other teams. In the end, I guess you live with the penalties, and some of the whining from opposing fans, and I include Joel Klatt in that number. He was obviously livid about the Lenoir pick and went on and on about it.
Oregon actually reminds me of past Stanford teams. Tough on the lines, tough quarterback, and a big receiver doing fade routes that basically can't be defended. Wright's TD return was an added element though that recalled old Oregon teams under Chip. I think this game showed the nation what Oregon can be down the stretch. We have been thinking the ducks aren't a playoff team, but they sure look like one with Juwan Johnson healthy and Wright returning kicks like that. They just became more dangerous in two areas they really weren't before.
Good post! Though the unsportsmanlike conduct I'm sure weren't part of the strategy and I'm sure those got Cristobal angry. But I like what you said about Juwan Johnson, if he was healthy all season I'm sure Oregon is undefeated right now.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:08 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
We should have been knocking WSU receivers around the week before also. That group we stopped on saturday is a lot more talented then the WSU group we had trouble with.
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:28 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
Merganzer wrote:
Schematically, it is like Stanford, & I think, philosophically, this is what Cristobal is building at Oregon, The tough play in the secondary is SEC , whining from the opposing fans, especially on the road, fruits of their labors. Oregon used to get grief from fans of other teams under Chip. But this is different. That was the gimmick offense and finesse. This isn't that.
I think in the past, we were the ones whining about more physical teams finding opportunities to knock our skill players around. It really makes fans angry to see one's team taken completely out of their game, and especially to watch the other team get an interception while your receiver is lying on the ground with a chalk outline. So I guess I am hypocritical, but in the end, I'd rather have the other team whining about being bullied by my team than vice-versa. And you are right, that is totally SEC-style. I guess when the refs start calling penalties that turn into touchdowns, it will stop. Interesting how many they missed on Saturday though. For PAC-12 refs that regularly call ridiculous ticky-tack pass interference to sit there and watch players getting leveled is sort of ironic, isn't it?
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:57 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
OregonFan4Life wrote:
Good post! Though the unsportsmanlike conduct I'm sure weren't part of the strategy and I'm sure those got Cristobal angry. But I like what you said about Juwan Johnson, if he was healthy all season I'm sure Oregon is undefeated right now.
I suspect that when the guys get back to the sideline after a slightly late hit on the QB or an early one on a receiver, Avalos and Cristobal tell them not to use the crown of their helmet next time.
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:16 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
"He who laughs last, laughs loudest."
Stop the strutting on the field and celebrate with your teammates on your sideline after a big play. Players can be themselves and have fun but they've got to do it within the framework of not doing anything to hurt your team too.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:38 am
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
Duck07 wrote:
"He who laughs last, laughs loudest."
Stop the strutting on the field and celebrate with your teammates on your sideline after a big play. Players can be themselves and have fun but they've got to do it within the framework of not doing anything to hurt your team too.
I agree. We should have a party tent on the sidelines.
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:45 pm
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
Great win! Fun game to watch..
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 pm
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
ncduck wrote:
Duck07 wrote:
"He who laughs last, laughs loudest."
Stop the strutting on the field and celebrate with your teammates on your sideline after a big play. Players can be themselves and have fun but they've got to do it within the framework of not doing anything to hurt your team too.
I agree. We should have a party tent on the sidelines.
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:27 pm
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:34 pm
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Re: #7 Oregon @ USC (Nov. 2, Sat 5 PM Fox)
nogerO wrote:
ncduck wrote:
Duck07 wrote:
"He who laughs last, laughs loudest."
Stop the strutting on the field and celebrate with your teammates on your sideline after a big play. Players can be themselves and have fun but they've got to do it within the framework of not doing anything to hurt your team too.
I agree. We should have a party tent on the sidelines.
"Act like you've done it before!"
All joking aside, this is great advice for life. Before I moved to NYC, my brother told me to 'Act like you've seen a building before', and went on to tell me about how annoying it is to be walking on the sidewalk behind a tourist who suddenly stops and then just looks straight up to the sky. He was warning me about people who aren't self-aware and annoying for people who need to get somewhere. I've taken it as life advice. When I'm in a new or stressful situation, I try to act like I've seen a building before.
Kirk Herbstreit just let loose in a big rant about FSU players. He said there were guys on FSU who would give up a 20 yard gain on 3rd and 15, tackle the receiver and then stand over the guy talking smack and celebrating. No self-awareness and they look like fools.
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