Duck07 Thread

[Duck07]

I think straight people should stop having gay babies and then we wouldn't have this problem, DUH!
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Honest question, do you think anyone hopes that their kid ends up being gay? Not trying to be a curmudgeon, it's something I have always wondered .

I won't love my daughters any less if they tell me 20 years from now they're gay btw.

I'm sure there are instances where a homosexual parent does feel that way and I think most would believe the opposite to be true, too but what about a parent hoping their child ends up a Republican and not a Democrat? Isn't this issue primarily about group acceptance more than anything else? (This also seems to me the tenet of the "I can't wait for this to NOT be newsworthy" - because society will have come to accept it, not that it will never happen again) The "natural" argument fails to account for what naturally shows up in nature and any cursory examination will reveal a plethora of information relating to it.

I think the issue at hand is more about having a happy and healthy child (10 fingers, 10 toes) who isn't made out by others to feel different. I'm about to become an Uncle in 6 weeks and my only concern is that my nephew comes out healthy (and my brother doesn't shoot him full of vaccines).

But let's say that when he is born he's born with 2 parts, a true hermaphrodite. How should he feel about himself in that case? How should he self-identify? How should his peers judge him?

For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

[justducky0]

It should not have been locked, it was a discussion on a forum with people sharing their views and not being disrespectful.

[pudgejeff]

To be clear I do not condone anyone being a homophobe or the use of duragotory terms toward the lgbt community. I am a christian and I eluded in my OP that the Christian community puts homosexuality on a pedestal and unnecessarily ridicule them. A gay man should feel welcome at church just as much as the people next to him. It makes me sad that the entire community feels ostracized and unwelcome when that's where they should feel most welcomed .

I also understand that a number of years ago it was taboo to be gay or come out as gay. As helfrich said if we had a gay player 'no one would bat an eye'. Is it shocking or front page news to find out clay Aiken is gay? That is where I think it is put on a pedestal from the other side.

I know it's not relevant to this conversation and doesn't need further discussion but I am quite often mocked and ostracized for my faith. I am not sayin that to condone an eye for an eye attitude but just addressing what was said above. Young life is a great organization but there's a difference between the attitude toward going bowling with Christians and say someone asking to pray for you

Through all of the conversations that have been had on this topic, your viewpoint has always made me smile. I commend you as human and as a christian for that!

[Duck07]

On Sept 9, Frontline released this great documentary about the Ebola crisis in Sierra Leona and how Doctors without Borders was working to fight it and the steps they took to prevent it from spreading.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ebola-outbreak/

September 9th. I only repeat the date because in the time since I saw this, I've seen a lot of bogus information about Ebola spread by various news agencies and even worse, gov't officials and organizations. It's one thing to not want to spread fear and panic, its another entirely when you start lying and do so willfully.



This is a recent report from the World Health Organization listing some of the fallacies being repeated as well as up to date information such as a 42 day incubation period, NOT 21 days like is currently being administered because ~ 1 in 20 will contract Ebola after 21 days so those released from quarantine may still get sick and infect others. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebo ... r-2014/en/

Also, I haven't heard anyone in media bring up how the CDC applied for and was awarded a patent on ebola. Does this mean ebola victims can sue the CDC and the other applicants?
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en

But hey, at least when it comes to disposing of the ebola medical waste in our country, we know we've got a company that has worked in Oregon with a STELLAR record of cleaning things up. Yep, that would be Stericyle, who was found to be fueling a power-plant in Oregon with dead babies as well as just dumping them in landfills in other states. Yup, they must really be the only ones capable of handling this waste!

http://www.dot.gov/briefing-room/us-dep ... a-infected
http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/katherine ... bola-waste

[Duck07]

Marysville-Pilchuck has a long history of losing students in tragic instances and this is another sad one. I still have my M-P Tomahawk sports bag with my name on it from all those long years ago before moving to Oregon.

[ncduck]

https://vine.co/v/MrTlImjlai1

I could watch this all day! So glad Lillard is a Blazer.

[fpsduck]

Just to cause issues Every person who has eaten an ear of Corn has eaten a GMO food. The original corn was the size of a head of wheat and just as hard. You can say you don't like the way we currently modify our our food, but we have been genetic altering our food and animals for thousands of years.

Quietduck

I don't know that the corn we eat is considered GMO, but not all GMOs are necessarily bad...

http://www.goldenrice.org/


Monsanto, on the other hand, is the debil.

[Duck07]

What the hell is going on today? Spending bill gets approved that would recognize that the fed's can't touch state's medical pot AND we're putting an embassy back in Cuba and ending the blockade? F'in weird.

[hjpop]

There was never a blockade (that would be an act of war). It was a trade embargo put in place after the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Other than that, it's been a weird day today, I agree.

[duckpoint]

Just to cause issues Every person who has eaten an ear of Corn has eaten a GMO food. The original corn was the size of a head of wheat and just as hard. You can say you don't like the way we currently modify our our food, but we have been genetic altering our food and animals for thousands of years.

Quietduck

I don't know that the corn we eat is considered GMO, but not all GMOs are necessarily bad...

http://www.goldenrice.org/


Monsanto, on the other hand, is the debil.

Like Quietduck, many confuse hybridization with genetic modification (corn if not the #1 GMO crop is certainly in the top 3). Quietduck is absolutely correct that corn has been selectively bred over many years to artificially evolve from a form that was originally much more like wheat or barley than what we know as corn or maize today. To put it succinctly as I can, and most specifically directly at Monsanto (Monsatan), GMO is not selective breeding in the traditional sense, but involves trans species modifications that could not be possible outside of a lab (gene splicing).

The main objective of Monsanto is to create "Round Up ready" crops, Monsanto is the manufacturer of Round Up (and more infamously Agent Orange ), that is, crops that can be sprayed with Round Up to control weeds without adverse effects on the desired crop and to own the patent on that seed. While many people may think that's great, based on my knowledge on the subject (I wanted to write truth or fact, but I am relying on opinions of others with expertise beyond my own on which I form my opinion, so I will leave it up to you and your own research as to what is truth or fact) is that these crops are genetically modified to survive the chemical spraying of herbicides and pesticides that Monsanto manufactures and sells to the farmers. So, the end result is that not only the food you eat derived from these GMO crops, but the soil in which the next crop will grow is effectively saturated with poison for the next crop.

To my knowledge there have been no long term studies on the effects of human consumption of GMO crops or crops sprayed with round up. Most studies that suggest the safety of GMO have been produced by Monsanto. There have been other independent studies that have contradicted the Monsanto Studies, but in most instances they have been denounced as being unscientific (look up the research for yourselves and decide who you believe).

Even worse, is the political nature of GMO! So, as mentioned above Monsanto holds the patent on the "frankenseed" they produce. There was an instance within the last 2 years that an Oregon wheat farmers crop was found out to be a Monsanto GMO wheat that he did not purchase from Monsanto, and was not a UDSA approved Monsanto crop. This effected the value of wheat crops throughout the region. Whats worse, is that if this or any farmers crop was "infected" with an "approved" Monsanto patented crop, the farmer would be exposed to lawsuit from Monsanto for infringement if his crops get infected.

To wrap up this rant, corn is not only one of the highest production GMO crops in the US, its also one of the most subsidized. Look at the ingredients listed on the products you purchase at the grocery store, especially anything processed, you are very likely to see some form of corn, corn flour or corn syrup. Its up to you to decide if it is healthy for you and your family.

[Duck07]

There was never a blockade (that would be an act of war). It was a trade embargo put in place after the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Other than that, it's been a weird day today, I agree.

I'm sorry, that's a f'in blockade and its not parsing words and I'm not trying to be a jerk, just something I've felt strongly about ever since I went there in 2003 with permission from the State Department. If Russia and China did that to us, we'd call it an act of war because its a willful attempt to subvert our economy. The entire premise for the blockade was BS as we're afraid that socialism in small countries can work. Certainly democracy hasn't always worked as we see the rule of law violated every day so its not a sacred cow that cannot be touched. Cuba is in a dilapidated state precisely because of the blockade and I think its going to be disgusting once McDonald's pops up in Havana and takes away all of the charm of that city.

Any criticism of the Castro's/Cuba has to be taken into context of what Fulgencio Batista was doing before the Revolution in addition to US policies afterwards. How can you criticize Fidel when Nixon had the CIA overthrow a Socialist President (Allende) in Chile in favor of establishing a Fascist Dictator (Pinochet) in his place? How valid is the criticism anyways? They've got a very high standard of living in Cuba and the biggest issue is not enough jobs. Gee, there aren't enough jobs anywhere on the planet.

[Duck07]

To my knowledge there have been no long term studies on the effects of human consumption of GMO crops or crops sprayed with round up. Most studies that suggest the safety of GMO have been produced by Monsanto. There have been other independent studies that have contradicted the Monsanto Studies, but in most instances they have been denounced as being unscientific (look up the research for yourselves and decide who you believe).

Monsatan doesn't do any testing beyond 90 days but they do routinely criticize any study that isn't longer than 90 days. They almost sound like FSU fans talking about how great those ACC Defense are!

[ncduck]

There was never a blockade (that would be an act of war). It was a trade embargo put in place after the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Other than that, it's been a weird day today, I agree.

I'm sorry, that's a f'in blockade and its not parsing words and I'm not trying to be a jerk, just something I've felt strongly about ever since I went there in 2003 with permission from the State Department. If Russia and China did that to us, we'd call it an act of war because its a willful attempt to subvert our economy. The entire premise for the blockade was BS as we're afraid that socialism in small countries can work. Certainly democracy hasn't always worked as we see the rule of law violated every day so its not a sacred cow that cannot be touched. Cuba is in a dilapidated state precisely because of the blockade and I think its going to be disgusting once McDonald's pops up in Havana and takes away all of the charm of that city.

Any criticism of the Castro's/Cuba has to be taken into context of what Fulgencio Batista was doing before the Revolution in addition to US policies afterwards. How can you criticize Fidel when Nixon had the CIA overthrow a Socialist President (Allende) in Chile in favor of establishing a Fascist Dictator (Pinochet) in his place? How valid is the criticism anyways? They've got a very high standard of living in Cuba and the biggest issue is not enough jobs. Gee, there aren't enough jobs anywhere on the planet.

Good point, why should we favor one totalitarian over another? For decades the US has been involved excessively in these matters in South America. I say we should let them fail on their own merits, at least we wouldn't be able to be used as the excuse.

[Bud Lee]

What the hell is going on today? Spending bill gets approved that would recognize that the fed's can't touch state's medical pot AND we're putting an embassy back in Cuba and ending the blockade? F'in weird.

I'm so ready to go down there, get a pulled pork sammich and smoke some fine cigars while I kayak around the island

[Duck07]

What the hell is going on today? Spending bill gets approved that would recognize that the fed's can't touch state's medical pot AND we're putting an embassy back in Cuba and ending the blockade? F'in weird.

I'm so ready to go down there, get a pulled pork sammich and smoke some fine cigars while I kayak around the island

Its what the Germans and Canadians do