Overlooked statistic... But very important!

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Offensive fumbles:

So far this season, DT has fumbled once, in 5 games.

LMJ? 0.

Last season?

Masoli lost 5 fumbles in the first 5 games, while LMJ lost 2.

Huge improvement.
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Nice and as usual good find wounded! JM was so careless with the ball, LaMIke has done real well hanging onto the ball so that great to see.
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Yeah Masoli was great with the zone read and could run over or past people but he was one dimensional in almost every game and that is what cost us the 3 games last season. DT brings a lot more to the table and he may be the difference between losing those types of games this season. DT has thrown 5 INT's this season but he has over 1000 yards passing and 13 passing TD's and a couple of rushing TD's already creating a much more balanced offensive attack. Also the Ducks still lead the country with a +11 turnover margin. I think the team just gets a little too pumped to begin games and play sloppy with penalties and turnovers and missed tackles, assignments, etc. but once they settle down they are just about unstoppable, against the good competition this season it has been the same story.
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Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
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Yeah, the ball security on offense has been great thus far. Very nice job by DT in that regard. Now the coaches just need to work on cleaning up the turnovers on special teams.
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woundedknees wrote:Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
That's what I've liked about the DT era so far. The offense looks so much more appealing to WRs now that I think Chip may have to start turning some WR recruits away.
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actually, LaMike has fumbled -1 times, Darron two, considering that great catch by Lamike on the option pitch from Darron that saved a fumble
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thegreenstain wrote:Yeah, the ball security on offense has been great thus far. Very nice job by DT in that regard. Now the coaches just need to work on cleaning up the turnovers on special teams.
Exactly what I was going to say. Turnovers on special teams are huge in any game.

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greenyellow wrote:
woundedknees wrote:Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
That's what I've liked about the DT era so far. The offense looks so much more appealing to WRs now that I think Chip may have to start turning some WR recruits away.
This team feels a lot more like the Dixon / JStew team. A nice balanced attack. Although, I think Dixon was a better runner than Thomas. I still love the balance.
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karlhungis wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
woundedknees wrote:Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
That's what I've liked about the DT era so far. The offense looks so much more appealing to WRs now that I think Chip may have to start turning some WR recruits away.
This team feels a lot more like the Dixon / JStew team. A nice balanced attack. Although, I think Dixon was a better runner than Thomas. I still love the balance.
Dennis has more top end speed but I think DT will become a much better passer
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Duck07 wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
woundedknees wrote:Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
That's what I've liked about the DT era so far. The offense looks so much more appealing to WRs now that I think Chip may have to start turning some WR recruits away.
This team feels a lot more like the Dixon / JStew team. A nice balanced attack. Although, I think Dixon was a better runner than Thomas. I still love the balance.
Dennis has more top end speed but I think DT will become a much better passer
The great thing about this situation is that DT is only getting better and better with each game... sky's the limit.
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A few things I've noticed DT needs to work on.

1. Strength and bulk. Not only could he use a little bit more arm strength, but he could add 10 pounds if he intends on carrying the rock. Adding bulk will further help him sustain those hits he's sure to take. Right now, DT reminds me a little of Jacory Harris from Miami.

2. Running harder. I've noticed that DT sometimes pulls up instead of lowering his shoulder upon contact. Pulling up like that leaves him vulnerable to big hits.
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Bumi wrote:A few things I've noticed DT needs to work on.

1. Strength and bulk. Not only could he use a little bit more arm strength, but he could add 10 pounds if he intends on carrying the rock. Adding bulk will further help him sustain those hits he's sure to take. Right now, DT reminds me a little of Jacory Harris from Miami.

2. Running harder. I've noticed that DT sometimes pulls up instead of lowering his shoulder upon contact. Pulling up like that leaves him vulnerable to big hits.
He could also work on his throwing motion, takes way to long to "wind up" and get rid of it sometimes... Not sure what it is exactly, but it doesnt look as crisp as other QB in the country...
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uodux1212 wrote:
Bumi wrote:A few things I've noticed DT needs to work on.

1. Strength and bulk. Not only could he use a little bit more arm strength, but he could add 10 pounds if he intends on carrying the rock. Adding bulk will further help him sustain those hits he's sure to take. Right now, DT reminds me a little of Jacory Harris from Miami.

2. Running harder. I've noticed that DT sometimes pulls up instead of lowering his shoulder upon contact. Pulling up like that leaves him vulnerable to big hits.
He could also work on his throwing motion, takes way to long to "wind up" and get rid of it sometimes... Not sure what it is exactly, but it doesnt look as crisp as other QB in the country...
He drops the ball down all the way below his waist on his windup giving him a slow release and extremely vulnerable to being stripped in the pocket. But he hasn't been stripped yet and the screen plays are working. Results over style.

It is unlikely they will be able to coach that windup out of him as after 2-1/2 years, 3 spring camps and 3 fall camps in the program it's still there. If his form flaw results in a fumble or 2 down the road and some screens being blown-up, so be it, you have to take the overwhelming good over the bad.
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Duck07 wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
woundedknees wrote:Those passing stats should help withrecruiting, as well.

It really stinks how many high quality receiver prospects turned their noses up at the Ducks over the last couple cycles.
That's what I've liked about the DT era so far. The offense looks so much more appealing to WRs now that I think Chip may have to start turning some WR recruits away.
This team feels a lot more like the Dixon / JStew team. A nice balanced attack. Although, I think Dixon was a better runner than Thomas. I still love the balance.
Dennis has more top end speed but I think DT will become a much better passer
Considering DD was the most efficient passer in college football at the time of his injury in '07, that's a hell of a prediction. I like it though and, at least compared to DD at this point in his Oregon career, DT has been much better. There is still plenty of football left but so long as DT keeps improving and our D keeps playing lights out in the 2nd half, I like our chances.
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