Way to go TK, ignore the post that debunked your foundation for your misconceptions about Islam.UOducksTK1 wrote:Because it isn't because someone is black that they commit terrorist attacks. It's not because he's a teenager that he commits terrorist acts. It's because he's an Islamic extremist that he did these attacks. Had he not been involved in the religion, I guarantee this would have never happened.Tray Dub wrote:Yeah, I know he's a Muslim. He's also a Somalian, a 19 year old, and a black kid. Why didn't you describe him as any of those in your title? Because you think it's his religion that's at fault. Wrong. It was his extremism. My example of McVeigh is a good one. It wasn't being Republican that caused the bombing. It was his extremism. You wouldn't have said the next day, "Republican blows up OKC buildings."UOducksTK1 wrote:Because I know him, he was a Muslim extremist. And as he detonated the explosive, he said "allah akbar". Obviously he did this because of his religious beliefs. Why should a fact like this be thrown under the carpet?Tray Dub wrote:TK, why exactly do you need to call him a Muslim in the title? He's an extremist terrorist. That's a way better description of him than "Muslim" and by singling that attribute out, you feed the beast of xenophobic hatred that many feel towards Muslims. It would be like, after Timothy McVeigh blew up the OKC federal buildings, calling him a Republican. It doesn't matter. What made him do it wasn't being Muslim, it was being a radical Muslim. Very different. I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it, but it's just so important for people to be careful about their descriptions of Muslims these days.
Uh... Did YOU actually read it? It was a sting operation. They didn't dream it up, the kid did.vagusnerve wrote:did you guys actually read about this?
it was the FBI that dreamed it all up in the first place. they did it to create news.... the american PR machine rolls on... and on... and on....
Half my family is Muslim, so I'm pretty sure I know most Muslims are not dangerous people. I love my family, and I trust them more than anyone else. But at the same time, most terrorists are Muslims, and it bothers me when the media or liberals try to hide this fact to act as if it could have been anyone. And NO that is not the case. Extremist Muslims are very dangerous.
Haha wow, McVeigh was trained by Al-Qaeda
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/nichols022004.html#s3
Now tell me what almost all of these terrorists have in common (that's right their religion):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_te ... .93present
Your politically correct agenda has clearly closed your eyes to the truth.
"Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush."
"Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war."
"Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."
"I have been ordered by Allah to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah."
When the Islamic fanatics are asked why they have done these terrorist attacks, their answer is almost always because of their religion/beliefs. And if that's too much for you to understand, then why continue this conversation? You clearly are stuck in your fallacies..
The fact that you're now distinguishing extremist Muslims from average Muslims means I no longer have a problem. I know religious extremism is to blame for most modern terrorist attacks (although your wikipedia link misses the point, ever heard of the IRA or the KKK? Radical Islam is far from the only contributor to terrorism), but the point I was making is that Islam is not the problem. Islam is not inherently evil. It's the extremists that are.
Though you'll probably ignore it, I'll explain the excerpts you mentioned:
First one: don't add your own commentary when you're ignorant. It wasn't talking about Christians, it was talking about some Arab pagans during one war. It was written only for that war, it was not a green light on mass murder. It just said to defeat the Arab enemy.
Second one: actually referring to those same Arab pagans. Also, it's significant that he says fight, not kill. From what I've read, the distinction in Arabic means a great deal, as fight in no way condones slaughter of innocents. Oh, and about eight words after your quote, the Quran says not to kill women and children. So terrorism is kinda proscribed right there.
Third: once again, not referring to all infidels. Read about what you're quoting.
Fourth: this justifies terrorism where? All it means is that Muslims are supposed to proselytize. Scary.
Also, I'm not all PC. It usually pisses me off as much as it does most people. However, using inflammatory language should be admonished, and then blasting a religion out of ignorance is completely unacceptable. This isn't about PC, this is about you not knowing what you're talking about.