I think after seeing how high they could reach and then seeing how poor recruiting finishes and classes can affect the team in multiple years.TualatinDuck wrote:How did we get so spoiled that a top 20 class means the beginning of the apocalypse?
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Early misses but at least it seems like they’re trying with recruiting, something that can’t be said about a previous coaching staff.
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The recruiting class is good despite the poor finish. It was always way overrated, the number 1 class & top 5 class was always bullshit. It was due to the bulk quantity of early commits. The average per player ranking was never high enough that it was going finish in the top 10. It was 18 by average star rating when Willie left though it had room to rise some with a strong finish.
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
Classes of this nature are good enough to win the conference or finish 9th; coaching, culture and player development will determine that.
That said the Boise State game made all the spin used to pump up MC and Arroyo's horrid past results look mighty suspect. Sometimes excuses are just that. I can't believe MC's career coaching record with the BSU game to reinforce it wasn't used against Oregon at the finish. I know I would have.
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
Classes of this nature are good enough to win the conference or finish 9th; coaching, culture and player development will determine that.
That said the Boise State game made all the spin used to pump up MC and Arroyo's horrid past results look mighty suspect. Sometimes excuses are just that. I can't believe MC's career coaching record with the BSU game to reinforce it wasn't used against Oregon at the finish. I know I would have.
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Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
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Josh McDanielsStevensTechU wrote:Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
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Don't be ridiculous. Dabo SweeneyDuck07 wrote:Josh McDanielsStevensTechU wrote:Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
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Let's get serious. Urban MeyerGrandpaDuck wrote:Don't be ridiculous. Dabo SweeneyDuck07 wrote:Josh McDanielsStevensTechU wrote:Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
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Lane Kiffen!greenyellow wrote:Let's get serious. Urban MeyerGrandpaDuck wrote:Don't be ridiculous. Dabo SweeneyDuck07 wrote:Josh McDanielsStevensTechU wrote:Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
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I have no idea who was actually available, how they interviewed or what the skeleton's in the closet are.StevensTechU wrote:Who would you have rather hired?GrandpaDuck wrote:
I am still of the opinion that hiring a coach primarily to save one recruiting class and please current players is idiotic.
I could throw out a bunch of names of top tier coaches who there is no way in hell we could have got, like Frost, Kelly, Sweeny, Saban, Petersen et al. Of the coaches that were likely available, I could make a case for Butch Davis, Joey Fresh Water, Sumlin or Harsin among the not my first choice but have some actual pros in the Pro con ledger.
Mostly I want MC to do great. He's the coach we have and I would love him to exceed my expectations. I want to win next year a billion times more than I want to say I told you so. I watch the games with Great Grandma Duck and she is almost 100. We don't have the patience for another do over and rebuild.
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Compare this class to the other new coaches in the Pac
Oregon 10 4 stars signed
UCLA 6 4 stars signed
Arizona State 1 4 star signed
Arizona 0 4 stars signed
Oregon 10 4 stars signed
UCLA 6 4 stars signed
Arizona State 1 4 star signed
Arizona 0 4 stars signed
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Pretty sure even on the national level, Oregon had the 2nd best recruiting class among schools with new head coaches. (WT got first)maxduck wrote:Compare this class to the other new coaches in the Pac
Oregon 10 4 stars signed
UCLA 6 4 stars signed
Arizona State 1 4 star signed
Arizona 0 4 stars signed
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I wasn't particularly keen on Mario Cristobal, but the only other name that I could come up with was Syracuse's Dino Babers.
The timing of Slick leaving really left Oregon in a no-win situation. Cristobal was possibly the best of the available options at that point in time.
The timing of Slick leaving really left Oregon in a no-win situation. Cristobal was possibly the best of the available options at that point in time.
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I wanted Brohm or Norvell. After it was made public that Norvell had some flags, only Brohm was left but he turned down some big programs. Cristobal wasn't my first choice but this is silly.
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I actually love the linebacker class and LBers might be the best unit on the whole team next year.mattc94 wrote:We have huge some quality problems at WR and LB, and a major depth problem at DB. I don't know if we are taking transfers or what, but I don't see us getting 8 wins next year. Good thing we have a good schedule. I hope Cristobal makes up for this so-so recruiting with his coaching. Because we have lost momentum. No idea how we get it back.
Depth problem is at defensive line.
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I see a depth issue and rush end and potentially CB.GrantDuck wrote:I actually love the linebacker class and LBers might be the best unit on the whole team next year.mattc94 wrote:We have huge some quality problems at WR and LB, and a major depth problem at DB. I don't know if we are taking transfers or what, but I don't see us getting 8 wins next year. Good thing we have a good schedule. I hope Cristobal makes up for this so-so recruiting with his coaching. Because we have lost momentum. No idea how we get it back.
Depth problem is at defensive line.