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Re: Dunigan
Ernie Kent.RanDux wrote:With hard work he has raised his prospects to a mid-second round pick. I wish he had worked that hard while he was at Oregon.
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If Dunigan truly wasn't in danger of ineligibility when he chose to leave, one has to wonder what might have been, had he stayed and put in the effort with the rest of Altman's 2010-11 team.
Water under the bridge at this point.
Water under the bridge at this point.
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I wouldn't just blame Ernie here. Big Mike is a good guy, but he didn't work very hard (on the court) once he got to Eugene. He had a soft body (looks far more muscular now) and didn't seem interested in expanding his game. I think Mike expected to come into college and dominate because he was bigger than everyone else. DeAndre Jordan was kind of the same way at Texas A&M (though far more raw and a better athlete).UOducksTK1 wrote:Ernie Kent.RanDux wrote:With hard work he has raised his prospects to a mid-second round pick. I wish he had worked that hard while he was at Oregon.
http://www.registerguard.com/web/sports ... s.html.csp
I know it sucks to blame the lack of success on someone else, but it's partially the truth.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
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Definitely, but it would have helped to have a coach who would coach him and push him.uostudent wrote:I wouldn't just blame Ernie here. Big Mike is a good guy, but he didn't work very hard (on the court) once he got to Eugene. He had a soft body (looks far more muscular now) and didn't seem interested in expanding his game. I think Mike expected to come into college and dominate because he was bigger than everyone else. DeAndre Jordan was kind of the same way at Texas A&M (though far more raw and a better athlete).UOducksTK1 wrote:Ernie Kent.RanDux wrote:With hard work he has raised his prospects to a mid-second round pick. I wish he had worked that hard while he was at Oregon.
http://www.registerguard.com/web/sports ... s.html.csp
I know it sucks to blame the lack of success on someone else, but it's partially the truth.
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You gotta remember that the NCAA places regulations on how much time coaches can spend with their players... And Dunigan was barely here for two years... So that gave him one off season to work on his body?UOducksTK1 wrote:Definitely, but it would have helped to have a coach who would coach him and push him.uostudent wrote:I wouldn't just blame Ernie here. Big Mike is a good guy, but he didn't work very hard (on the court) once he got to Eugene. He had a soft body (looks far more muscular now) and didn't seem interested in expanding his game. I think Mike expected to come into college and dominate because he was bigger than everyone else. DeAndre Jordan was kind of the same way at Texas A&M (though far more raw and a better athlete).UOducksTK1 wrote:Ernie Kent.RanDux wrote:With hard work he has raised his prospects to a mid-second round pick. I wish he had worked that hard while he was at Oregon.
http://www.registerguard.com/web/sports ... s.html.csp
I know it sucks to blame the lack of success on someone else, but it's partially the truth.
I think Dunigan benefited significantly by going overseas... I doubt he would have made this type of progress at Oregon or a different school.
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Re: Dunigan
On KEZI's 11 PM sportscast in Eugene, they were reporting that Dunigan said Jeremy Jacob had transferred. KEZI debunked that rumor by calling either the athletic department or Altman and they said JJ hadn't filed any transfer paperwork and was very much still with the team. I wonder where Dunigan got the idea that JJ had transferred.
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Might have just confused JJ with one of the 7 or 8 players who have transferred.
I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
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I very rarely bag on Ernie, but even I have to admit that his development of players was below average at very bestoregontrack wrote:I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
EDIT: I do agree that from what I heard from people around the program he was very lackadaisical about his work ethic while here.
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Re: Dunigan
While it doesn't rank up there with some of the incidents around the AD, the duck shooting incident eemed to indicate a certain lack of focus, and/or discipline.
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Josh Crittle, Mike Dunigan, and Teondre Williams... All departed, post Kent.
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Josh Crittle, Mike Dunigan, and Teondre Williams... All departed, post Kent.
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Indeed, but plenty of players did improve by leaps and bounds while they were here. If he wanted to, Dunigan could have been one of them.Autzenoise wrote:I very rarely bag on Ernie, but even I have to admit that his development of players was below average at very bestoregontrack wrote:I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
EDIT: I do agree that from what I heard from people around the program he was very lackadaisical about his work ethic while here.
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I think the problem was that Ernie had only one style of "mentoring". The kids that needed that kind of leadership and support flourished, while the ones that may have needed a little more stern mentoring, or a little more push didn't get it which resulted in not progressing as much as they could have.oregontrack wrote:Indeed, but plenty of players did improve by leaps and bounds while they were here. If he wanted to, Dunigan could have been one of them.Autzenoise wrote:I very rarely bag on Ernie, but even I have to admit that his development of players was below average at very bestoregontrack wrote:I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
EDIT: I do agree that from what I heard from people around the program he was very lackadaisical about his work ethic while here.
Like any kind of good leader, he needed to be able to change his style to accommodate each individual player. As a retail manager for years, one of the first things you learn about leading people is understanding that you need to first understand what each person needs to be motivated. I think not being able to do this was a large part of Ernie's downfall.
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Agreed, I think most all players improved while they were at Oregon... You just didn't see it until their junior-senior years.oregontrack wrote:Indeed, but plenty of players did improve by leaps and bounds while they were here. If he wanted to, Dunigan could have been one of them.Autzenoise wrote:I very rarely bag on Ernie, but even I have to admit that his development of players was below average at very bestoregontrack wrote:I don't necessarily blame EK for Dunigan's bust factor, either. At some point, you just gotta put in the work. Ernie was here for a long time, and a lot of players developed just fine.
EDIT: I do agree that from what I heard from people around the program he was very lackadaisical about his work ethic while here.
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Re: Dunigan
Most guards and wings improved, but not one big improved in there time at UO. In fact some of them where better as FR than as SR.
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Chris Christopherson?buckmarkduck wrote:Most guards and wings improved, but not one big improved in there time at UO. In fact some of them where better as FR than as SR.