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Meatheads shouldn't play with twitter..

Boom wrote:Meatheads shouldn't play with twitter..

So basically almost all athletes shouldn't be on it?

What's wrong with questioning something or having a opinion. It's America.

He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tray Dub wrote:He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tell that to people in Syria, Libya, and even the US (look at how we started as a country) that have overthrown (or are attempting to) tyrannical governments with the help of guns.

Also, it's an M16/AR15, not M15.

greenyellow wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tell that to people in Syria, Libya, and even the US (look at how we started as a country) that have overthrown (or are attempting to) tyrannical governments with the help of guns.

Also, it's an M16/AR15, not M15.

The US military is not in the same ballpark as any of those countries. If the Minutemen had been facing the US military, they would've been slaughtered. Same goes for Libyan and Syrian rebels. You're just not living in the real world if you think bands of militias are going to stave off the military. It's more likely that they devolve into paranoia and xenophobia and we end up with an extremist right-wing movement, a la Hitler and the brown shirts. There are some frightening parallels between today's America and the late Weimar Republic. People are angry and have lost faith in the ruling class (justifiably), and that's a very dangerous situation.

Furthermore, let's say you do believe the US government is getting ready to institute total tyranny. Why don't you do anything about it? Why don't you protest? That's how rights are won and illegitimate authority is resisted, at least until it's absolutely impossible to do it anymore. People in much more repressive circumstances (including in this country) have won a great deal without having to resort to shootouts with the ATF.

Plus, if the government wanted to disarm the population, they wouldn't be staging gun massacres, because it's easy to predict that those are likely to drive up gun sales, as they have. Gun sales went through the roof after Sandy Hook. The whole thing is just silly, and more than a bit ominous.

PS And where are the gun club guys on actual civil liberties issues? Drones, Patriot Act, mass incarceration of minorities, Massive wiretapping, surveillance of everyone (there's a video on a program called "Solar Wind" on nytimes.com... It'll blow your mind). It's like the only way they think a government oppresses its citizens is through direct violence.

Tray Dub wrote:

greenyellow wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tell that to people in Syria, Libya, and even the US (look at how we started as a country) that have overthrown (or are attempting to) tyrannical governments with the help of guns.

Also, it's an M16/AR15, not M15.

The US military is not in the same ballpark as any of those countries. If the Minutemen had been facing the US military, they would've been slaughtered. Same goes for Libyan and Syrian rebels. You're just not living in the real world if you think bands of militias are going to stave off the military. It's more likely that they devolve into paranoia and xenophobia and we end up with an extremist right-wing movement, a la Hitler and the brown shirts. There are some frightening parallels between today's America and the late Weimar Republic. People are angry and have lost faith in the ruling class (justifiably), and that's a very dangerous situation.

Furthermore, let's say you do believe the US government is getting ready to institute total tyranny. Why don't you do anything about it? Why don't you protest? That's how rights are won and illegitimate authority is resisted, at least until it's absolutely impossible to do it anymore. People in much more repressive circumstances (including in this country) have won a great deal without having to resort to shootouts with the ATF.

Plus, if the government wanted to disarm the population, they wouldn't be staging gun massacres, because it's easy to predict that those are likely to drive up gun sales, as they have. Gun sales went through the roof after Sandy Hook. The whole thing is just silly, and more than a bit ominous.

I don't have the same opinion on what Colt posted, but that said some of you are extremely naive to think governments don't stage or even massacre their own people. And to think 100 million armed Americans couldn't beat 2 million military personnel is also naive. It would come at a great cost, but the sure numbers would eventually overwhelm them. Thus the reason it would be suicide to invade China, even if they didn't have half the weapons they have today.

Oh and he has a right to his opinion, no matter how crazy it may be. But it always cracks me up when all the libby "open minded" people tear down others who they don't agree with.

buckmarkduck wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:

greenyellow wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tell that to people in Syria, Libya, and even the US (look at how we started as a country) that have overthrown (or are attempting to) tyrannical governments with the help of guns.

Also, it's an M16/AR15, not M15.

The US military is not in the same ballpark as any of those countries. If the Minutemen had been facing the US military, they would've been slaughtered. Same goes for Libyan and Syrian rebels. You're just not living in the real world if you think bands of militias are going to stave off the military. It's more likely that they devolve into paranoia and xenophobia and we end up with an extremist right-wing movement, a la Hitler and the brown shirts. There are some frightening parallels between today's America and the late Weimar Republic. People are angry and have lost faith in the ruling class (justifiably), and that's a very dangerous situation.

Furthermore, let's say you do believe the US government is getting ready to institute total tyranny. Why don't you do anything about it? Why don't you protest? That's how rights are won and illegitimate authority is resisted, at least until it's absolutely impossible to do it anymore. People in much more repressive circumstances (including in this country) have won a great deal without having to resort to shootouts with the ATF.

Plus, if the government wanted to disarm the population, they wouldn't be staging gun massacres, because it's easy to predict that those are likely to drive up gun sales, as they have. Gun sales went through the roof after Sandy Hook. The whole thing is just silly, and more than a bit ominous.

I don't have the same opinion on what Colt posted, but that said some of you are extremely naive to think governments don't stage or even massacre their own people. And to think 100 million armed Americans couldn't beat 2 million military personnel is also naive. It would come at a great cost, but the sure numbers would eventually overwhelm them.

Obviously governments commit violence against the population. The question is, does it make any sense at all for this to be the strategy of a would-be tyrannical government? If you think about it for five seconds, it's pretty definite this would not. Furthermore, what exactly are you afraid of? And why aren't you doing anything about it? Until you see these people getting involved in protest and peaceful resistance with their fellow citizens, they're nothing more than paranoid passive bystanders.

And good luck with your spontaneous hundred million man army armed with rifles against air strikes, martial law, tanks, and an army that actually has, y'know, generals and a command center and organization. I don't get how you can possible not see how silly the whole plan is.

buckmarkduck wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:

greenyellow wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:He called the parents of the dead children liars and claims their kids aren't really dead, so that's pretty wack. The really scary thing is how many supporters he has. If you click on the Yahoo story's link to the Emerald story, most of the comments are just flat out agreeing with him. This country is horribly paranoid at the moment. It's also a moronic school of thought, seeing as how a person with an M15 is not going to fend off government agents if they decide to bust down his doors. Guns don't protect you from tyranny, activism and protest does. But instead, you have people arming themselves to the teeth and claiming mass shootings are government conspiracies to take everyone's guns and send us all to concentration camps or whatever.

Tell that to people in Syria, Libya, and even the US (look at how we started as a country) that have overthrown (or are attempting to) tyrannical governments with the help of guns.

Also, it's an M16/AR15, not M15.

The US military is not in the same ballpark as any of those countries. If the Minutemen had been facing the US military, they would've been slaughtered. Same goes for Libyan and Syrian rebels. You're just not living in the real world if you think bands of militias are going to stave off the military. It's more likely that they devolve into paranoia and xenophobia and we end up with an extremist right-wing movement, a la Hitler and the brown shirts. There are some frightening parallels between today's America and the late Weimar Republic. People are angry and have lost faith in the ruling class (justifiably), and that's a very dangerous situation.

Furthermore, let's say you do believe the US government is getting ready to institute total tyranny. Why don't you do anything about it? Why don't you protest? That's how rights are won and illegitimate authority is resisted, at least until it's absolutely impossible to do it anymore. People in much more repressive circumstances (including in this country) have won a great deal without having to resort to shootouts with the ATF.

Plus, if the government wanted to disarm the population, they wouldn't be staging gun massacres, because it's easy to predict that those are likely to drive up gun sales, as they have. Gun sales went through the roof after Sandy Hook. The whole thing is just silly, and more than a bit ominous.

I don't have the same opinion on what Colt posted, but that said some of you are extremely naive to think governments don't stage or even massacre their own people. And to think 100 million armed Americans couldn't beat 2 million military personnel is also naive. It would come at a great cost, but the sure numbers would eventually overwhelm them. Thus the reason it would be suicide to invade China, even if they didn't have half the weapons they have today.

Oh and he has a right to his opinion, no matter how crazy it may be. But it always cracks me up when all the libby "open minded" people tear down others who they don't agree with.

What do you think it means to be open-minded? It looks like you think it means either 1. never making a negative judgment about anyone else's opinion... or 2. never vocalizing your disagreement. When someone says something you disagree with, do you think you need to stay silent?

Well, Twitter's blowing up with reports of a meteor, so maybe you're right about the guns. If we go all apocalypse, I'm gonna be running own with a kitchen knife

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Yes you did.

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