Eastern Washington @ Oregon (Sept 5th, 5pm Pac-12 Net)

[gogreen55]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

http://www.scout.com/college/oregon/sto ... t-game-ewu

[pezsez1]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

I fully agree with John Neal.

He acknowledges the defense got exposed, and also that it got beat. But then he also makes a couple of mentions of "modern football," implying that it's just so hard to hold good opponents to low point totals... a reality that's regularly reflected in scores all over the country and with all top-ranked teams.

"The problem with offensive football right now is you can't get to the quarterback. They throw the ball so quickly and there's so many formations."

Sounds like he's aware of the problem while also keeping a realistic perspective on what it means to be good defensively.

This comment from Neal is also interesting:

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Pillows Pellum, eh? So what would Neal's nickname be? Baby Seal Neal?

To all of you who say Helfrich should have gone with Neal instead of Pellum... do you really think he'd be fundamentally different as a coach? Sounds like he has a very similar philosophy... perhaps because he has a front-row seat to how the nation's best spread operates.

[buckmarkduck]

And Neal is the passing game coordinator, it's not like the passing d would be any diffrent under him.

[UofDuck]

Pez, you do know he's an underling of Pillows, right? And how do you explain other teams getting to the QB on a regular basis? Maybe it's lack of DLine technique? Or not enough push. Or unimaginative blitz packages. Either way, we need serious improvement. One thing I rarely see from our DLine are stunts. It seems like straight bull rushes over and over. And if it's about lane responsibility, mix it up once in a while for heaven's sake.

[karlhungis]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

I fully agree with John Neal.

He acknowledges the defense got exposed, and also that it got beat. But then he also makes a couple of mentions of "modern football," implying that it's just so hard to hold good opponents to low point totals... a reality that's regularly reflected in scores all over the country and with all top-ranked teams.

"The problem with offensive football right now is you can't get to the quarterback. They throw the ball so quickly and there's so many formations."

Sounds like he's aware of the problem while also keeping a realistic perspective on what it means to be good defensively.

This comment from Neal is also interesting:

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Pillows Pellum, eh? So what would Neal's nickname be? Baby Seal Neal?

To all of you who say Helfrich should have gone with Neal instead of Pellum... do you really think he'd be fundamentally different as a coach? Sounds like he has a very similar philosophy... perhaps because he has a front-row seat to how the nation's best spread operates.

That's actually really depressing to see Neal basically say that we just can't stop modern offenses. Not even a little inspired by anything about that.

[QuackininBama]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

I fully agree with John Neal.

He acknowledges the defense got exposed, and also that it got beat. But then he also makes a couple of mentions of "modern football," implying that it's just so hard to hold good opponents to low point totals... a reality that's regularly reflected in scores all over the country and with all top-ranked teams.

"The problem with offensive football right now is you can't get to the quarterback. They throw the ball so quickly and there's so many formations."

Sounds like he's aware of the problem while also keeping a realistic perspective on what it means to be good defensively.

This comment from Neal is also interesting:

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Pillows Pellum, eh? So what would Neal's nickname be? Baby Seal Neal?

To all of you who say Helfrich should have gone with Neal instead of Pellum... do you really think he'd be fundamentally different as a coach? Sounds like he has a very similar philosophy... perhaps because he has a front-row seat to how the nation's best spread operates.

I don't get it people. Did you watch the game? That quarterback was getting rid of the ball in 1-2 seconds. Yes, I acknowledge I'm drinking but lets stop with, "The defense sucks", maybe we should give credit to EW and just say, hey, they did their homework and ran the gameplan that gave them the best chance for success? Great quarterbacks, great receivers, but we still stomped them. I'm honestly not worried at all.

Tonight, pezsez is right. Anyone remember a Washington State team that did the same thing? How many games did they win? Ohh thats right, we, OREGON, went to the National Championship. I'll take this D and win after win after win over an Alabama who looks good on the stat sheet yet OREGON was there, not the Tide.

[gogreen55]

And how do you explain other teams getting to the QB on a regular basis?

Which teams have gotten to the EWU quarterbacks on a regular basis? We are talking about this specific team and this specific offense that Oregon was facing. I haven't watched all of EWU's games, so maybe there are some? Judging by their offensive statistics the past several years, these teams that are getting to their QBs on a regular basis must be very few and far between.

[UofDuck]

And how do you explain other teams getting to the QB on a regular basis?

Which teams have gotten to the EWU quarterbacks on a regular basis? We are talking about this specific team and this specific offense that Oregon was facing. I haven't watched all of EWU's games, so maybe there are some? Judging by their offensive statistics the past several years, these teams that are getting to their QBs on a regular basis must be very few and far between.

But we're not just talking about one game. We are talking about a repetitive problem. EWU is just the most recent.

[rockthief]

Yes, an ongoing problem. Why? Just why?





Here's to our D stepping it up next week!

[gogreen55]

But we're not just talking about one game. We are talking about a repetitive problem. EWU is just the most recent.

The Oregon defense doesn't struggle to get to the QB every single game. A person can point to several games over the past few years where they got after the QB pretty good. The games they don't, perhaps the offense they are facing is at least part of the reason why? That was John Neal's point.

[greenyellow]

But we're not just talking about one game. We are talking about a repetitive problem. EWU is just the most recent.

The Oregon defense doesn't struggle to get to the QB every single game. A person can point to several games over the past few years where they got after the QB pretty good. The games they don't, perhaps the offense they are facing is at least part of the reason why? That was John Neal's point.

The game from last season that closest to the EWU game was the WSU game. Quick passes with the occasional shot down the field is the calling card of an Air Raid-type offense that WSU runs and what we saw from EWU on Saturday. Cal does something similar but didn't have the same success because their Air Raid offense mixes in the run more often, which Oregon can more easily defend.

[UOducksTK1]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Which is ironic, because in the recent past most of our losses have come against teams with a strong OL and a physical inside style of play.

[buckmarkduck]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Which is ironic, because in the recent past most of our losses have come against teams with a strong OL and a physical inside style of play.

Arizona is neither of those things, and they make up half of Helfs L.

[UOducksTK1]

People should listen to John Neal's full post game interview.

"You can rush and blitz, but the ball's out. That's modern football. That's why they put four and five wides, that's why they go empty. They keep you from doing that. Our strength is inside, and they really nullify those guys, so a lot of time you've got to drop eight to try to control the passing game, because they throw the ball, and they're getting good gains out of that stuff."

Which is ironic, because in the recent past most of our losses have come against teams with a strong OL and a physical inside style of play.

Arizona is neither of those things, and they make up half of Helfs L.

I know, but tOSU, Stanford (twice), LSU, and others in general have been our downfall. General perception for media is Oregon is fast, but not strong enough to stand in the trenches with the big boys.

[Jaw327]

I personally want Pellum to stop playing these games. He needs to focus on the faceless opponent like chip always stressed. Blitz the crap out of them, who cares what MSU sees. When we brought pressure, it worked period.

We got one sack against EWU, Zero sacks agains MSU. We gave up 4th down plays over and over, that one 4th and 6 was a killer. Everytime 3rd down rolls around I just hope the opposing QB throws an errant pass, because that's usually the only way we stop anyone on 3rd down.
I agree with you, it's the philosophy. DP raved all offseason about how smart Hardrick is and how he'd give him a coaching job if he could, well I'm sure he can soon cause Hardrick is never playing on Sundays. We have gotten good players in but the coaching is awful, we can't tackle, our D line stands straight up and can't press the QB at all. Why are all the scouts raving about DeFo but when we see him play he's invisible. It's because they see the talent and we see how bad the coaches use him, and the rest of the D talent