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Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:57 pm
by greenyellow
After reading about it for a couple years and seeing its results for several teams, I think Oregon should transition into doing rugby tackling. I really believe that it's likely the next step in evolution the sport needs to improve and one that Oregon's coaches (whomever that should be next season) should do to stay on the cutting edge of progression. If Oregon needs help in transitioning, there's a company up in Seattle called Atavus Football (http://football.atavus.com/) that has consulted and taught many of the other programs that have gone to rugby tackling. Oregon (and many other traditional tackling teams) said the main reason they basically stop doing tackling drills during the season is because the chances of injury are higher and the players are usually beaten up pretty good just from the games. With the way it's taught and done in practices, the drills can be done with or without pads with a lot less wear and tear on the players. This may help solve the poor tackling fundamentals that both Neal and Hoke have talked about this season that is running rampant throughout all levels of football.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/2 ... ess-Safety


Here's some stories about the other programs who've gone to rugby tackling:

UW said they do drills nearly every day to stay sharp and they said they're seeing fresher players, fewer missed tackles, fewer head injuries, and fewer targeting calls.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... /83251200/

Nebraska went to it this past season and they seemed to be a much better tackling team than in 2015.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footba ... ove-081316

Ohio State started doing it in 2013 and saw marked improvements in their tackling ability. They were also able to continue doing tackling drills all the way up to the day before the NCG with Oregon with little to no adverse impact on their health.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content ... style.html

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content ... l-hit.html

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:36 pm
by Phenom
I thought I had read that we had?

We definitely need a more innovative coaching staff. Copying Chip is not innovative.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:43 pm
by buckmarkduck
Phenom wrote:I thought I had read that we had?

We definitely need a more innovative coaching staff. Copying Chip is not innovative.
We went to matador tackling.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:40 pm
by Duck07
The Seahawks teach Hawk tackling, which is the same thing as rugby tackling without using your head. Teaching a single leg takedown would be an improvement

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:56 pm
by duck55
:lol: we could add a cape to next years uni
buckmarkduck wrote:
Phenom wrote:I thought I had read that we had?

We definitely need a more innovative coaching staff. Copying Chip is not innovative.
We went to matador tackling.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:40 pm
by karlhungis
What's wrong with just running into them and hoping they fall down?

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:19 am
by GrantDuck
Yes.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:52 am
by shoparound
I guess our current strategy of tapping them in the shoulderpads isn't working, so yes

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:54 am
by Duck24
shoparound wrote:I guess our current strategy of tapping them in the shoulderpads isn't working, so yes
I thought PAC12 was playing two hand touch? At least that's what the big bad country bumpkins from the SEC like to say.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:38 pm
by rsbgduck
I'm not to picky, any kind of freaking tackling I'd be ok with.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:23 pm
by DuckMastaFunk
buckmarkduck wrote:
Phenom wrote:I thought I had read that we had?

We definitely need a more innovative coaching staff. Copying Chip is not innovative.
We went to matador tackling.
You made me start laughing out loud at my desk! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:03 am
by liberalduck
shoparound wrote:I guess our current strategy of tapping them in the shoulderpads isn't working, so yes
They don't always touch their shoulder pads. Sometimes they aren't close enough to do that.


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Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:21 am
by Juice
ABSOLUTELY WE SHOULD. As stated above UW is extremely sound defensively, and I think the Atavus tackling has played a role in that, because their players do a great job of maintaining leverage and tracking the inside hip, resulting in far fewer missed tackles.

Rex Norris is a guy I coached under for about 4 years, and he left our program to help get Atavus running along with Serevi (idk his first name but he is pretty much the Michael Jordan of Rugby).

We have transitioned to it at my school up here and it has definitely helped sure up our tackling, not to mention resulted in sharp decrease in concussions.

I am all for it.

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:42 am
by Phenom
Fleck's teams do this.

At 4:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQO0uMFGfsw

Re: Should Oregon transition to rugby tackling?

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:38 pm
by BTJ201
Phenom wrote:Fleck's teams do this.

At 4:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQO0uMFGfsw
Dang he had me wanting to put on the pads!