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ifuwant2 wrote:

scoducks wrote:

srsmiley007 wrote:Haha I think it was WWWEBFOOT who created that rumor that Herbert might transfer due to Taggart

But wasn't there more than just the "fake news" troll job going on? Didn't some other more respected posters say they'd heard some rumblings. Didn't somebody over here a week or two back suggest that they'd "heard" that maybe an Oregon quarterback contacted Tennessee just "in case"?

In the end, I'm ignoring it because clearly Herbert is going to be here through Spring ball, and that should tell everybody everything that needs to be known.

scoducks wrote:If there is a QB that is thinking on transferring it has to be Jonsen. Went from battling for the starting position to 3rd and 4th string.

ifuwant2 wrote:

scoducks wrote:If there is a QB that is thinking on transferring it has to be Jonsen. Went from battling for the starting position to 3rd and 4th string.

Yeah, that was a harsh demotion. I always wondered if that was a Yost or Helf move.

DuckedOut wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:

scoducks wrote:If there is a QB that is thinking on transferring it has to be Jonsen. Went from battling for the starting position to 3rd and 4th string.

Yeah, that was a harsh demotion. I always wondered if that was a Yost or Helf move.

It was a "He's simply not good enough" move.

Travis is a great kid and a good athlete, but from everything I've heard, the kid can't hit the broad side of a barn. As a result, he can't seem to keep the turnovers down either. There's a reason he got more reps as a WR than as a QB in practice last year, and if he wants to continue playing for Oregon...then I think that's where his future will be.

ifuwant2 wrote:

DuckedOut wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:

scoducks wrote:If there is a QB that is thinking on transferring it has to be Jonsen. Went from battling for the starting position to 3rd and 4th string.

Yeah, that was a harsh demotion. I always wondered if that was a Yost or Helf move.

It was a "He's simply not good enough" move.

Travis is a great kid and a good athlete, but from everything I've heard, the kid can't hit the broad side of a barn. As a result, he can't seem to keep the turnovers down either. There's a reason he got more reps as a WR than as a QB in practice last year, and if he wants to continue playing for Oregon...then I think that's where his future will be.

Yes, but at the time the coaches could just say he's number 2 because they wanted to RS Wilson and Herbert. What if Prukop holds the job all season and Herbert doesn't need to see a snap? Instead straight to 4th string with Jonsen. When the coaches made that decision, I'm sure they hoped Prukop would be the Heisman candidate every fan and their Duck had fingers crossed for. Maybe, in their most honest moments, the coaches could see Prukop was not going to be a superstar. But I'm sure they hoped he'd be the guy that kept them their jobs. Instead they chose to trot Herbert out for one second in game 1, and then stick him back on the bench until even the family dog was begging for a change at qb. It was a curious turn of events you have to admit.

DuckedOut wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:

DuckedOut wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:

scoducks wrote:If there is a QB that is thinking on transferring it has to be Jonsen. Went from battling for the starting position to 3rd and 4th string.

Yeah, that was a harsh demotion. I always wondered if that was a Yost or Helf move.

It was a "He's simply not good enough" move.

Travis is a great kid and a good athlete, but from everything I've heard, the kid can't hit the broad side of a barn. As a result, he can't seem to keep the turnovers down either. There's a reason he got more reps as a WR than as a QB in practice last year, and if he wants to continue playing for Oregon...then I think that's where his future will be.

Yes, but at the time the coaches could just say he's number 2 because they wanted to RS Wilson and Herbert. What if Prukop holds the job all season and Herbert doesn't need to see a snap? Instead straight to 4th string with Jonsen. When the coaches made that decision, I'm sure they hoped Prukop would be the Heisman candidate every fan and their Duck had fingers crossed for. Maybe, in their most honest moments, the coaches could see Prukop was not going to be a superstar. But I'm sure they hoped he'd be the guy that kept them their jobs. Instead they chose to trot Herbert out for one second in game 1, and then stick him back on the bench until even the family dog was begging for a change at qb. It was a curious turn of events you have to admit.

I talked to a guy who was at some of the fall practices and he said that Prukop looked really good during those practices...it quickly became clear though during the season that the reason Prukop was doing so well in practice was because our defense was so freaking bad. Plus, his games against UC Davis and Virginia were solid. He really fell apart once we started playing good teams and the staff recognized that.

The reason Herbert didn't redshirt was because he and Prukop were the two best QBs on the roster. I don't think it was a curious turn of events at all. Justin was going to get snaps one way or another last season.

DuckedOut wrote: I talked to a guy who was at some of the fall practices and he said that Prukop looked really good during those practices...it quickly became clear though during the season that the reason Prukop was doing so well in practice was because our defense was so freaking bad. Plus, his games against UC Davis and Virginia were solid. He really fell apart once we started playing good teams and the staff recognized that.

The reason Herbert didn't redshirt was because he and Prukop were the two best QBs on the roster. I don't think it was a curious turn of events at all. Justin was going to get snaps one way or another last season.

buckmarkduck wrote:All made up BS by people. They think because Flowers ran his O so well, WT will want Wilson to be qb. Problem is, Wilson isn't half the qb Herbert is.

UOducksTK1 wrote:

buckmarkduck wrote:All made up BS by people. They think because Flowers ran his O so well, WT will want Wilson to be qb. Problem is, Wilson isn't half the qb Herbert is.

^^^

Herbert is a baller, type of guy you get lucky to land. It'd be a sad day if he doesn't start come this fall.

srsmiley007 wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:Well, I think it's perfectly normal for people to speculate who the quarterback is going to be when a new coach and system is brought in. Same as at any other position. There is no doubt some dudes at some positions are going to get buried. Obviously, the odds of Herbert getting passed are very small. But I find it weird that some folks can't even talk about it. Like they'll jump off a cliff at the very notion. I mentioned this on the boards before, not sure if here though, but J. Hurts at Alabama, as a true freshman, took his team to the Natty and won the SEC offensive player of the year. On the Alabama boards, there is serious conversation about whether he should ever start another game. They talk about whether Tua can beat him out, and whether a new OC means one of the other kids behind him will be handed the reigns. All because of one game. I mean, it's a real legit conversation over there. And the prevailing opinion seems to trend away from Hurts.

Some of you may remember that I posted the list of National Championship winning quarterbacks over the last 25 years or so, and I'm not sure there was a single NFL big-armed gun-slinging qb in the bunch. I could give a rip if a qb is an NFL talent. I care if we win all our games. Now that's not an argument for or against any kind or quarterback. That's an argument for saying that I don't care who Taggart goes with as long as it wins the most games. I fully expect it to be Herbert.

PS. A "Taggart team" is still 3 years away. Don't know what that's going to look like. Herbert will be a Senior then. Might have already declared and be gone. We will likely have a very different "style" of qb recruit following him. Though our old offense and the Gulf Coast offense are pretty similar, the philosophy behind/guiding them are very different. A whole different ball game. Whole different approach. Some kids will shine. Some won't.

Speculation is one thing but some toads on DTintimated that there was talk of Herbert transferring over transition of offense, etc. Speculation is one thing but this was simply "FAKE NEWS." Hence, great post question.

duxforlyfe wrote:

srsmiley007 wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:Well, I think it's perfectly normal for people to speculate who the quarterback is going to be when a new coach and system is brought in. Same as at any other position. There is no doubt some dudes at some positions are going to get buried. Obviously, the odds of Herbert getting passed are very small. But I find it weird that some folks can't even talk about it. Like they'll jump off a cliff at the very notion. I mentioned this on the boards before, not sure if here though, but J. Hurts at Alabama, as a true freshman, took his team to the Natty and won the SEC offensive player of the year. On the Alabama boards, there is serious conversation about whether he should ever start another game. They talk about whether Tua can beat him out, and whether a new OC means one of the other kids behind him will be handed the reigns. All because of one game. I mean, it's a real legit conversation over there. And the prevailing opinion seems to trend away from Hurts.

Some of you may remember that I posted the list of National Championship winning quarterbacks over the last 25 years or so, and I'm not sure there was a single NFL big-armed gun-slinging qb in the bunch. I could give a rip if a qb is an NFL talent. I care if we win all our games. Now that's not an argument for or against any kind or quarterback. That's an argument for saying that I don't care who Taggart goes with as long as it wins the most games. I fully expect it to be Herbert.

PS. A "Taggart team" is still 3 years away. Don't know what that's going to look like. Herbert will be a Senior then. Might have already declared and be gone. We will likely have a very different "style" of qb recruit following him. Though our old offense and the Gulf Coast offense are pretty similar, the philosophy behind/guiding them are very different. A whole different ball game. Whole different approach. Some kids will shine. Some won't.

Speculation is one thing but some toads on DTintimated that there was talk of Herbert transferring over transition of offense, etc. Speculation is one thing but this was simply "FAKE NEWS." Hence, great post question.

What do you mean by "toads" ???


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chapelhillduck wrote:Said this back when it was Nate vs. Marcus....

I want our QB to be the player that wins the QB competition and works their a$$ off bc he's scared of other players taking his job. Fine if kids transfer bc they couldn't win job, even if they do great somewhere else, bc you need competitors to win championships.


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srsmiley007 wrote:

duxforlyfe wrote:

srsmiley007 wrote:

ifuwant2 wrote:Well, I think it's perfectly normal for people to speculate who the quarterback is going to be when a new coach and system is brought in. Same as at any other position. There is no doubt some dudes at some positions are going to get buried. Obviously, the odds of Herbert getting passed are very small. But I find it weird that some folks can't even talk about it. Like they'll jump off a cliff at the very notion. I mentioned this on the boards before, not sure if here though, but J. Hurts at Alabama, as a true freshman, took his team to the Natty and won the SEC offensive player of the year. On the Alabama boards, there is serious conversation about whether he should ever start another game. They talk about whether Tua can beat him out, and whether a new OC means one of the other kids behind him will be handed the reigns. All because of one game. I mean, it's a real legit conversation over there. And the prevailing opinion seems to trend away from Hurts.

Some of you may remember that I posted the list of National Championship winning quarterbacks over the last 25 years or so, and I'm not sure there was a single NFL big-armed gun-slinging qb in the bunch. I could give a rip if a qb is an NFL talent. I care if we win all our games. Now that's not an argument for or against any kind or quarterback. That's an argument for saying that I don't care who Taggart goes with as long as it wins the most games. I fully expect it to be Herbert.

PS. A "Taggart team" is still 3 years away. Don't know what that's going to look like. Herbert will be a Senior then. Might have already declared and be gone. We will likely have a very different "style" of qb recruit following him. Though our old offense and the Gulf Coast offense are pretty similar, the philosophy behind/guiding them are very different. A whole different ball game. Whole different approach. Some kids will shine. Some won't.

Speculation is one thing but some toads on DTintimated that there was talk of Herbert transferring over transition of offense, etc. Speculation is one thing but this was simply "FAKE NEWS." Hence, great post question.

What do you mean by "toads" ???


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Seriously??? I'm assuming you jest.

If not, a Toad is a nice way of saying ignorant, troll, who has no real contacts, never played or coached who spreads false information or rumor as fact or inside information. A.K.A - "Fake News"

If by chance you're offended that I'm referring to every member of DT, I'm not. I too was/is a member but have basically left the board since many of those I've known-JHOP, etc. have also left/been fired. What it's like now is a completely different crew.