Re: Willie Taggart interview with KEZI's Kristen Rodgers
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:46 am
+1(since we can't vote it up)wlduck wrote:Not qualified myself to know how realistic it is to see the onset of Rhabdo in that particular situation. As far as not quoting Taggart for the story are we sure he was willing to comment at that time? Seems like an unusual decision for a reporter to make if he omitted WT quotes from the story. Besides being pertinent, they would also drive readership one would think.srsmiley007 wrote:Sorry, my bad, I wasn't clear. Still like your take even if I disagree with it which is what makes a good blog.wlduck wrote:Nothing in my "take" or the article contradicts anything in your post. My post was about the article, and Taggarts response to it. I feel like the incident itself was minor- but there was an incedent. And I have been part of many conditioning drills with players " herfing" myself. None ever developed Rhabdo.srsmiley007 wrote:Appreciate your take, but, having played, I totally disagree... We had guys herfing during winter conditioning consistently. That's part of the deal... No offense, but there are points in the game where you have to dig deep or you lose and that doesn't just magically happen. You have to be pushed to the limit and trained to overcome. At least these guys had parameters. The worse is when you don't know how long they'll make you go.wlduck wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.s ... pital.html
First off, suggesting reporters be banned is weak. It suggests that the program has a reason to hide things. Second, read Grief's story. Certainly some may not care for quoting unnamed sources, but he also quotes school officials and players who give their sides. Unlike Canzano, he offers no opinions, just a reporting of the story. Personally I think Grief is a fair and thorough reporter. I'm more inclined to say that fans (and coaches) should stop being so sensitive about what amounts to straight reporting on stories.
I like Taggart allot. He's incredibly frank in that interview about his feeling that the players didn't like each other last year. That's pretty stunning to admit, and his willingness to address it publicly is in stark contrast to previous coaches. I don't mind his defending his side of the conditioning story, and I think he really believes little or nothing wrong was done. But his administration did, and I would have liked it more had he started that defense with a small amount of contrition for it. But I'm sure most here disagree.
The part of your comment I disagree with is Willie and contrition. Especially when they fail to include his comments in the story. How does one have contrition for his workout plan? One not unique to college, the military and so many others? Is he upset that his players were hurt. Absolutely. That's not contrition though.
Also, I didn't agree with Grief's reporting on this. I too like him for the most part, but disagree with the slant on this story. As for banning journalistst, I wonder if that's really directed towards Canzano? Grief for the most part reports with subtle slant. Canzano though is a nuclear bomb.
The problem is the story doesn't reference how difficult it is to determine Rhabdo, thus leading the reader to assume the headline of "grueling." How do you see, in advance, potential Rhabdo symptoms? Symptoms are muscle pain or urine. Lactic acid buildup, players with a high tolerance for pain and pushing themselves continuously are going to know the difference? Nope. When informed of the urine, they took action.
Admittedly, I'm no expert on Rhabdo but from what I've read, I'm not sure how they could do anything much different other than have them pee before/after each workout.
I am basically done with this. I would finish by saying I like the direction towards more openness with the program and would hate to see that change because of a few blips.