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Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:14 am
by FishDuck
Hello All,

Oregon is NOT running a 3-4 Defense as their base defense after all, and the link below can help explain it in a couple of paragraphs.

http://fishduck.com/2017/04/oregons-foo ... 4-defense/

You know the drill; read over there, and comment here. I look forward to discussing it with everyone....

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Cheers.

FishDuck

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:50 am
by duckduckgoose
Great read. The best thing about the new staff is the opening of practices. I loved reading Fishducks practice reports from the Belotti era. The picture of Burmeister almost ruined my day seeing an Oregon qb in #17 again!


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Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:44 am
by greenyellow
We hadn't heard of Leiato or Oliver being moved to OLB so was kind of wondering if Oregon was running a 3-3-5 based on the depth chart that people observed at the scrimmage.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:25 am
by FishDuck
As we stated in the article--it is as listed at GoDucks.com and we provide the link to it. There is even a two-deep for the new "Duck" linebacker/safety hybrid position.

FD

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:56 pm
by Merganzer
The most encouraging aspect of this is the enthusiasm and forward thinking it shows in the coaches. Oregon, under Chip was heralded as being innovative with a capital I. This isn't that, but having a defense that is planning and executing, looking for ways it can exploit an opposing defense and its own players, is something to be very excited about.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:12 pm
by greenyellow
Merganzer wrote:The most encouraging aspect of this is the enthusiasm and forward thinking it shows in the coaches. Oregon, under Chip was heralded as being innovative with a capital I. This isn't that, but having a defense that is planning and executing, looking for ways it can exploit an opposing defense and its own players, is something to be very excited about.
I think Leavitt did something similar at CU so I guess seeing it implemented at Oregon shouldn't be too unexpected.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:23 pm
by Merganzer
greenyellow wrote:
Merganzer wrote:The most encouraging aspect of this is the enthusiasm and forward thinking it shows in the coaches. Oregon, under Chip was heralded as being innovative with a capital I. This isn't that, but having a defense that is planning and executing, looking for ways it can exploit an opposing defense and its own players, is something to be very excited about.
I think Leavitt did something similar at CU so I guess seeing it implemented at Oregon shouldn't be too unexpected.
Agree about Leavitt doing it before, and successfully, makes it even more likely to work here.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:05 pm
by Phenom
I'm all for exploiting an opposing team's weaknesses as long as we don't compromise who we are. That's when "overthinking" happens. I don't remember the last we had an identity on defense though lol.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:09 pm
by Merganzer
Phenom wrote:I'm all for exploiting an opposing team's weaknesses as long as we don't compromise who we are. That's when "overthinking" happens. I don't remember the last we had an identity on defense though lol.
Great point about overthinking. In this case though I understood it to mean that the defense would set up in response to how the offense is aligned. This is a positive move, not overthinking. As for identity, last season's definitely had one, and we hope it is shed immediately!

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:43 pm
by greenyellow
The 3-3-5 is basically for when opposing teams go to 3 WR or more sets since you really don't LBs having to cover WRs, which several of Oregon's LBs complained about when discussing the problems with Hoke's defense. They'll shift into a more basic 3-4 when teams go to heavier 2 TE or FB sets. In obvious passing downs, they're likely shift to a 4-2-5.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:26 pm
by Joe4Ducks
Thanks Fishduck

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:01 pm
by Zyme
Joe4Ducks wrote:Thanks Fishduck
+1, you a great font of wisdom.

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:18 am
by ducks5ever
This is kinda off topic, but what are everyone's thoughts of the inside linebackers being smaller than the OLB's? I know Troy Dye has a very high football IQ, but he's only 225 pounds..... I think we played Apelu inside during games last year and that did not end well....

Re: Oregon is NOT Running a 3-4 Defense

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:54 am
by duck541
ducks5ever wrote:This is kinda off topic, but what are everyone's thoughts of the inside linebackers being smaller than the OLB's? I know Troy Dye has a very high football IQ, but he's only 225 pounds..... I think we played Apelu inside during games last year and that did not end well....
Don't see an issue with it, it's pretty much the norm with a 3-4 or whatever variation of it we're running. The OLBs need to be big and strong enough to set the edge, and moving Dye inside frees him of that responsibility and will allow him to roam a bit more. Colorado's ILBs were about the same size last season at 230 lbs and it wasn't an issue for them.