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Nets Trade-
Kelly Olynyk

Kings Trade-
Buddy Hield
Wesley Matthews
Kings 2023 1st (All clauses removed, Nets have full rights to the pick)

Um what?

Craig wrote:Um what?

"Nets have the options to trade any 1st for Kings 23 1st"

Yeah any ‘23 1st... it’s a pick swap option lol it’s pretty standard. I dunno what this is

Craig wrote:Yeah any ‘23 1st... it’s a pick swap option lol it’s pretty standard. I dunno what this is

That's not what I interpreted or posted.

So what's the decision on this? I assumed it meant swap with any pick. I posted it in that way, and that's the way I interpreted the PM as well (Which I can share with Craig's approval).

LOL I dunno what to tell you man. Pick swap rights in ‘23 means you can swap your 1st with mine if you choose. I was nice and gave you the opening to switch with any pick you might have, not just yours. I don’t know where this “any year” part is coming from. That’s like...not a thing lol. I don’t really know why you would take something that, admittedly could’ve been more specific I suppose, and jump to a conclusion that nobody ever does. I would think that if something is perhaps a bit vague, you’d draw a conclusion that is closer to the more common scenario.

I think we're gonna have to see the notes

Craig wrote:LOL I dunno what to tell you man. Pick swap rights in ‘23 means you can swap your 1st with mine if you choose. I was nice and gave you the opening to switch with any pick you might have, not just yours. I don’t know where this “any year” part is coming from. That’s like...not a thing lol. I don’t really know why you would take something that, admittedly could’ve been more specific I suppose, and jump to a conclusion that nobody ever does. I would think that if something is perhaps a bit vague, you’d draw a conclusion that is closer to the more common scenario.

Have you seen some of the stipulations in trades in this league? You should never assume anything. I legit thought it meant any first I own. Never thought it was limited to a year. I'll let Ownage decide how to interpret that agreed to trade and we'll go from there.

This one is out of my hands. I need you two to come to a resolution. Its not my job to interpret a deal based in wording, both parties need to come to an agreement

If you guys can’t come to an agreement, post the notes and put up a poll?

UOducksTK1 wrote:

Craig wrote:LOL I dunno what to tell you man. Pick swap rights in ‘23 means you can swap your 1st with mine if you choose. I was nice and gave you the opening to switch with any pick you might have, not just yours. I don’t know where this “any year” part is coming from. That’s like...not a thing lol. I don’t really know why you would take something that, admittedly could’ve been more specific I suppose, and jump to a conclusion that nobody ever does. I would think that if something is perhaps a bit vague, you’d draw a conclusion that is closer to the more common scenario.

Have you seen some of the stipulations in trades in this league? You should never assume anything. I legit thought it meant any first I own. Never thought it was limited to a year. I'll let Ownage decide how to interpret that agreed to trade and we'll go from there.

You can tell me not to assume, but you assumed just as much (more IMO) because I never said any year. Even as I meant it you could just sell off a bench player for the 1st of the team with the best record in ‘23 and bend me over that way.

I have no dog in this fight but from an outsiders perspective it seems if it wasn't specified then what Nets did is okay.

Having said that, I get where Craig might be a little perturbed if his "understanding" wasn't the same. To which I'd say unfortunately something similar happened to me many seasons ago and I have instituted a no trade clause with that team forever and always - lol.

I think notes would probably be helpful to render a decision.....

Similar to bells, I have been burned in the past by not being very clear and concise in my wording in trades so I feel for Craig.

It does say 'Any 1st' though as opposed to pick swap option. IDK, I go back and forth on this. We need a lawyer.

My only opinion is was how I read it originally when the trade was made and that was it would be any pick of that same year, cause that's how all of these swaps have ever worked.