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1.
2. Washington
3. Utah

Without looking, can anyone guess #1?

GrantDuck wrote:1.
2. Washington
3. Utah

Without looking, can anyone guess #1?

im going with the ducks

GrantDuck wrote:1.
2. Washington
3. Utah

Without looking, can anyone guess #1?

im going with the ducks

WSU?

Pretty sure the Ducks arent even close. I think it is the Huskies in both Conference and All games, even though thats not the answer you're looking for.

I cheated and peeked. Surprising answer.

Arizona State?


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Cal

I hated this stat when we had the bend-don't-break because while 5 yards allowed per play is considered good, we were literally giving 5 yards up each play. It seemed like we could NEVER get a 3 and out.

DuckMastaFunk wrote:I hated this stat when we had the bend-don't-break because while 5 yards allowed per play is considered good, we were literally giving 5 yards up each play. It seemed like we could NEVER get a 3 and out.

Yards per play can be a misleading stat. Points per possession is the best single metric for measuring a team's defensive and offensive output. It was a hard to find stat for a long time, but cfbanalytics.com has it available. That being said, looking at a variety of stats will paint a better picture of a team than any single stat will.

Oregon is at 2.7 pts per offensive possession, which ranks #22 in the country. Oregon gives up 1.96 pts per possession, which is somewhere in the middle tiers, but the website is kinda bad and doesn't have rank numbers (or I can't figure out how to display them) and I'm not counting that far. Oregon State gives up 3.47 pts per possession, which is second to last. By contrast, Alabama's offense is #2 and their defense is #4.

cfbanalytics also has data on the percentage of drives resulting in touchdowns, which George Wrighster has talked about on his podcast and youtube/twitter show, and is how I heard about the site in the first place.

greenyellow wrote:Cal

You got it!

No surprise our informed moderator gets it.

I had to double check this myself..and over the 2nd half of conference, they were lights out on defense.

karlhungis wrote:

wepto wrote:

DuckMastaFunk wrote:I hated this stat when we had the bend-don't-break because while 5 yards allowed per play is considered good, we were literally giving 5 yards up each play. It seemed like we could NEVER get a 3 and out.

Yards per play can be a misleading stat. Points per possession is the best single metric for measuring a team's defensive and offensive output. It was a hard to find stat for a long time, but cfbanalytics.com has it available. That being said, looking at a variety of stats will paint a better picture of a team than any single stat will.

Oregon is at 2.7 pts per offensive possession, which ranks #22 in the country. Oregon gives up 1.96 pts per possession, which is somewhere in the middle tiers, but the website is kinda bad and doesn't have rank numbers (or I can't figure out how to display them) and I'm not counting that far. Oregon State gives up 3.47 pts per possession, which is second to last. By contrast, Alabama's offense is #2 and their defense is #4.

cfbanalytics also has data on the percentage of drives resulting in touchdowns, which George Wrighster has talked about on his podcast and youtube/twitter show, and is how I heard about the site in the first place.

Ehh, yes and no. Points per possession doesn't factor in field position, opponents missing FG's, or random bad unforced turnovers.

Yards per play allowed is a much more pure representation of what the defense itself is doing, independently. Of course, it has its flaws too, as you point out, including that it's not going to measure a good RZ defense or a defense that creates a lot of turnovers.

I would take either one over traditional stats like "total yards".

FWIW Pac-12 top 3 on points per possession defense are the same, although the order is UW, Utah, Cal.

GrantDuck wrote: Yards per play allowed is a much more pure representation of what the defense itself is doing, independently. Of course, it has its flaws too, as you point out, including that it's not going to measure a good RZ defense or a defense that creates a lot of turnovers.

I would take either one over traditional stats like "total yards".

Preach it, brother. The YPP allowed stat is assuredly imperfect, but much better than the standard "total yards" stat. I have at different times also mentioned the https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei website for "advanced" analytics. I don't know how it compares to the cfbanalytics.com site mentioned above.