Arroyo to UNLV
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I'm going the other way and hope he stays. Shough has been working with him for a couple years now and I'd like him to have some coaching consistency through his development. Our team has had enough couching carousel, time for some consistency. And let's all remember we are Pac12 Champs and we're 11-2. Neither of which suck.
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Helf didn't know I could hear, he was talking to a trusted person and I overheard cause I'm nosy.lukeyrid13 wrote:That seems very unlike HelfOregonFan4Life wrote:Helf is never coming back to Oregon, he hates the Oregon culture. I heard him say it himself.
If Mario was able to upgrade from a good coordinator in Leavitt, then I’m sure I’ll do the same with a subpar coordinator in Arroyo. Arroyo to me is kinda like Frost, someone I thought would be a better HC than OC.
What he hated about the culture was that it was so focused on winning now, no patience for losing, simply win and nothing else. Basically he felt like Oregon wasn't big time enough to be like that and it made it not as fun for the program, coaches, players, and fans.
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I would say calling plays in the NFL is good enough experience.DuckMastaFunk wrote:
Besides, he NEVER called plays at Oregon. Chip ran the offense as HC and Frost ran the offense when Helf was HC.
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And I would say he has one of the worst offenses in the nfl. He's simply not a good coach, and he's not a good recruiter.StevensTechU wrote:I would say calling plays in the NFL is good enough experience.DuckMastaFunk wrote:
Besides, he NEVER called plays at Oregon. Chip ran the offense as HC and Frost ran the offense when Helf was HC.
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I'm not a Helfrich hater like many on this board, but is he even calling the plays for the Bears? I've always heard Nagy be referred to as the play caller.StevensTechU wrote:I would say calling plays in the NFL is good enough experience.DuckMastaFunk wrote:
Besides, he NEVER called plays at Oregon. Chip ran the offense as HC and Frost ran the offense when Helf was HC.
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Re: Arroyo to UNLV?
Arroyo is such a common name that I doubt it.
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That's my worry as well. I hope they get an OC who doesn't change things so much that everyone has to start from scratch again in learning an offense.EncinitasDuck wrote:I'm going the other way and hope he stays. Shough has been working with him for a couple years now and I'd like him to have some coaching consistency through his development. Our team has had enough couching carousel, time for some consistency. And let's all remember we are Pac12 Champs and we're 11-2. Neither of which suck.
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He was talked about being OC of the year last year.squintsdd wrote:And I would say he has one of the worst offenses in the nfl. He's simply not a good coach, and he's not a good recruiter.StevensTechU wrote:I would say calling plays in the NFL is good enough experience.DuckMastaFunk wrote:
Besides, he NEVER called plays at Oregon. Chip ran the offense as HC and Frost ran the offense when Helf was HC.
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Mike Bellotti had 6 different offensive coordinators in his 14 years. With a couple of QB's taken in the top 5 it doesn't seem that the change hurt development that much. I expect Mario will keep the same general offensive concept but a few new tweaks could be beneficial.greenyellow wrote:That's my worry as well. I hope they get an OC who doesn't change things so much that everyone has to start from scratch again in learning an offense.EncinitasDuck wrote:I'm going the other way and hope he stays. Shough has been working with him for a couple years now and I'd like him to have some coaching consistency through his development. Our team has had enough couching carousel, time for some consistency. And let's all remember we are Pac12 Champs and we're 11-2. Neither of which suck.
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Helfrich being mentioned for open Colorado State HC position:
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports ... 315744002/
It doesn't look like he is calling plays in Chicago, but he seems heavily involved in the coaching, based on his interviews.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports ... 315744002/
It doesn't look like he is calling plays in Chicago, but he seems heavily involved in the coaching, based on his interviews.
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Helfrich hasn’t called plays in like 10 years lol
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Yup, Bears head coach Matt Nagy calls their plays. The only time Helfrich has called plays since he arrived at Oregon is when he took over more of the offense towards the end of 2016 from Lubick in a last ditch effort to save that season. The results were not great.Phalanx wrote:Helfrich being mentioned for open Colorado State HC position:
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports ... 315744002/
It doesn't look like he is calling plays in Chicago, but he seems heavily involved in the coaching, based on his interviews.
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If you bring in a good coach, I don't think it is that big of a deal. For the most part, football is football. There are tons of examples of teams changing coordinators for one reason or another and having immediate success with the new guy. Avolos is a perfect example. He implemented his new defense, while doing some little things (such as keeping a lot of the terminology the Ducks had already been using, rather than having to learn his new terminology) that made the transition about as seamless as anyone could hope for. If you hire the right guy at offensive coordinator, I don't think any struggles the team may have next season will be because of the coaching change.greenyellow wrote:That's my worry as well. I hope they get an OC who doesn't change things so much that everyone has to start from scratch again in learning an offense.EncinitasDuck wrote:I'm going the other way and hope he stays. Shough has been working with him for a couple years now and I'd like him to have some coaching consistency through his development. Our team has had enough couching carousel, time for some consistency. And let's all remember we are Pac12 Champs and we're 11-2. Neither of which suck.
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Re: Arroyo to UNLV?
Looks like a deal with Arroyo may have fallen through because LSU DC Dave Aranda is now considered the frontrunner: