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StevensTechU wrote: I also don't understand why the apprehension only applies to quarterbacks. No issue when it's wide receivers, offensive linemen, and so on.
There are multiple WR's, offensive linemen, and so on... that contribute on a roster. If we ONLY played transfer linemen or transfer WR's there would be plenty of apprehension. There was quite a bit of apprehension when weren't developing WR's last season.
If Tua wanted to transfer to UO, would you be against that?

Rick Neuheisel tells a story about getting a call from Russell Wilson, and he wanted to transfer to UCLA. He told him they weren't in the market for another QB, because they were set at QB lol.

I'm also hopeful we get a grad transfer on the OL.
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Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
If a coach promises a starting spot to a grad transfer they are not a good coach. Even Helf told Prukop he had no guarantee. But that’s the thing - usually the experienced older guy is better.
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Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
This isn’t a very well thought out statement, do you really think a top level coach, such as Cristabol has proven to be, will guarantee a starting spot to a transfer? Of course not!....open competition
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Alan wrote:
Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
This isn’t a very well thought out statement, do you really think a top level coach, such as Cristabol has proven to be, will guarantee a starting spot to a transfer? Of course not!....open competition
lol sure. Maybe not a guarantee but coaches definitely let players know where there is opportunity.
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There's no way a grad transfer with multiple offers goes somewhere unless he knows his chances of playing are all but assured. If he wanted to sit, he would likely stay at his original school.
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Phalanx wrote:There's no way a grad transfer with multiple offers goes somewhere unless he knows his chances of playing are all but assured. If he wanted to sit, he would likely stay at his original school.
This.
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Alan wrote:
Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
This isn’t a very well thought out statement, do you really think a top level coach, such as Cristabol has proven to be, will guarantee a starting spot to a transfer? Of course not!....open competition
The whole cannon of Duck "fans" not wanting Newman isn't a very well thought out statement. If you want another example of the great football insights this board has produced. Prior to this season, a poster on here stated that JJ3 was "did not have the skills to be a Division 1 caliber receiver". If Newman comes and wins job that means he is the best QB.

Why dont you ask LSU, Oklahoma, tOSU & Wiscy fans how their transfer QBs have worked out.
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justducky0 wrote:
Alan wrote:
Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
This isn’t a very well thought out statement, do you really think a top level coach, such as Cristabol has proven to be, will guarantee a starting spot to a transfer? Of course not!....open competition
The whole cannon of Duck "fans" not wanting Newman isn't a very well thought out statement. If you want another example of the great football insights this board has produced. Prior to this season, a poster on here stated that JJ3 was "did not have the skills to be a Division 1 caliber receiver". If Newman comes and wins job that means he is the best QB.

Why dont you ask LSU, Oklahoma, tOSU & Wiscy fans how their transfer QBs have worked out.
The key is if Newman comes in He will have every opportunity to win the job he well not get it because he was assured he would get it. I have no problem bringing any grad transfer if it helps the team and every once in a while there is a great one, such as what LSU landed. The prior season JJ3 wasn’t a good receiver...... he figured it out this last season.
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LSU: Burrow, Oklahoma: Hurt.
In recent past Vernon Adams..

What's the downside here? And don't point to Prukop.... because if it wasn't for his failing, Justin wouldn't have gotten such an early run and early development at Oregon.
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Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
Where did you come up with that? This isn’t everybody gets a ribbon. It’s about competition. Best player starts. There are no guarantees in big boy football. You have to earn it. It’s called the American Dream which seems to be under attack these days for some misguided reason.
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nogerO wrote:
Phenom wrote:Yes, that’s all nice and good but no good graduate transfer goes to a school where they aren’t given assurances that they’ll start.
Where did you come up with that? This isn’t everybody gets a ribbon. It’s about competition. Best player starts. There are no guarantees in big boy football. You have to earn it. It’s called the American Dream which seems to be under attack these days for some misguided reason.
What does the American Dream have to do with this? Seems you're trying to make a point that doesn't really apply here.
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jimmy12 wrote:LSU: Burrow, Oklahoma: Hurt.
In recent past Vernon Adams..

What's the downside here? And don't point to Prukop.... because if it wasn't for his failing, Justin wouldn't have gotten such an early run and early development at Oregon.
So the transfer that negates your argument can't be used as an example? Sounds like dems and Republicans when they argue.
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squintsdd wrote:
jimmy12 wrote:LSU: Burrow, Oklahoma: Hurt.
In recent past Vernon Adams..

What's the downside here? And don't point to Prukop.... because if it wasn't for his failing, Justin wouldn't have gotten such an early run and early development at Oregon.
So the transfer that negates your argument can't be used as an example? Sounds like dems and Republicans when they argue.
Thanks for bringing politics in to this guys. That REALLY helps things. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It is just so interesting to me that so many Oregon fans are "Team Shough" when we have seen him for about 3 plays his entire career. But for some reason when a senior QB who can ball with Wake Forest skill players wants to come here everyone is skeptical. Have you noticed Oregon now has a great stable of QBs if they bring the Newman in? What a great Spring / Fall battle it will be to win the job. It will raise each QBs game and guess what...the best one will start. Which in the end is the best for the Ducks. This whole argument against bringing him in makes ZERO sense and should be done.
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DuckMastaFunk wrote:
squintsdd wrote:
jimmy12 wrote:LSU: Burrow, Oklahoma: Hurt.
In recent past Vernon Adams..

What's the downside here? And don't point to Prukop.... because if it wasn't for his failing, Justin wouldn't have gotten such an early run and early development at Oregon.
So the transfer that negates your argument can't be used as an example? Sounds like dems and Republicans when they argue.
Thanks for bringing politics in to this guys. That REALLY helps things. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lol. Honestly I don't care either way, the coaches know better than I do what's best for the team. I was just pointing out the stupidity of the argument used
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