CB Situation
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CB Situation
I haven't seen the switch at defense made against USC mentioned much. I realize that they are trying to get the best guys on the field by putting both Boyett and Ward out there with Lewis at CB. But, it didn't seem to be working at all times with the Trojans able to pass to the edges pretty much automatically.
I'd like to see Harris out there more instead as a true CB. But, then, I'm not sure what to do about Ward/Boyett/Lewis. At least one of them would have to get fewer plays.
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I'd like to see Harris out there more instead as a true CB. But, then, I'm not sure what to do about Ward/Boyett/Lewis. At least one of them would have to get fewer plays.
Ideas?
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Re: CB Situation
I've wondered the same thing. Although, the defense certainly stepped up its play in the second half and many of the pass defense problems went away. It's hard because I think Harris is the best cover corner on the roster now, but I think, especially against Stanford, that having Lewis in at corner will be pretty big because of the need for tackling.
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Re: CB Situation
SC wasn't throwing on Javes, they were throwing on Talmadge. That Damien Williams for SC was making TJ look like little kid, catching out routes and curl routes, then beating Jackson to the edge for 10-12 yard 1st downs. Granted, had we had WT3, he would have been guarding DW for SC, but we don't so TJ is our best cover corner. Fortunately, he won't face speed like that again this season, except maybe against James Rodgers in the CW.
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Re: CB Situation
Are you sure? It looked to me like it was Lewis on that side. It was Jackson that was shutting down the pass on his side.
I don't see Lewis as a cover kind of guy as much as a physical DB. I think that Aliotti questioned Williams capability having just come off injury so thought Lewis could stay with him.
It could be that it will be a good combo against Stanford's run. But, if what they're saying is true, they can pass pretty well also and might try and copy what USC was able to do.
I don't see Lewis as a cover kind of guy as much as a physical DB. I think that Aliotti questioned Williams capability having just come off injury so thought Lewis could stay with him.
It could be that it will be a good combo against Stanford's run. But, if what they're saying is true, they can pass pretty well also and might try and copy what USC was able to do.
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Re: CB Situation
100% Sure, I was at the game and was getting pissed at Talmadge. Watch the game again, you'll see that the only real effective receiver for the Trojans was Damien Williams.
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Re: CB Situation
I noticed Lewis getting picked on early as well. He adjusted well enough in the second half. He definitely didn't look comfortable early on though.
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I was at the game also and was getting pissed at Aliotti for putting Lewis on Damien Williams, their only effective receiver.NCDucks09 wrote:100% Sure, I was at the game and was getting pissed at Talmadge. Watch the game again, you'll see that the only real effective receiver for the Trojans was Damien Williams.
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I've watched the game a few times and TJIII has a number of really nice pass break ups. He wasn't the problem.NCDucks09 wrote:100% Sure, I was at the game and was getting pissed at Talmadge. Watch the game again, you'll see that the only real effective receiver for the Trojans was Damien Williams.
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Attached a snapshot from the game showing Lewis (14) on Williams (18), running that screen-with-a-lot-of-room play.
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Re: CB Situation
A better one.
I think USC planned on going after us at corner assuming it would be Harris. But, saw Lewis in there instead and figured that was just as well.
I think USC planned on going after us at corner assuming it would be Harris. But, saw Lewis in there instead and figured that was just as well.
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Re: CB Situation
It was absolutely Javes that they were picking on early
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I'm not too worried. The Trojans have been able to pass against everyone. I think Williams is a big time receiver no matter who guards him.
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Re: CB Situation
I was at the game too, and I saw Talmadge on his man every second of the game. He did a wonderful job. He just needs to do a better job of looking for the ball when it's up in the air. I feel like his back is always to the ball. Nevertheless, he was glued to his man from what I could see.NCDucks09 wrote:100% Sure, I was at the game and was getting pissed at Talmadge. Watch the game again, you'll see that the only real effective receiver for the Trojans was Damien Williams.
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Re: CB Situation
You guys also have to note that it appeared to be the defensive game plan to give up the little stuff as long as they didn't get any of their deep passes on us, now there were a couple of plays where we got lucky and Barkley suck it up or the receiver was pretending he had a number 4 jersey on ( ) but for the most part if that was the plan then the defense did a helluva job implementing it!
I know a few of us on the board before the game thought this was a key: give up some short yardage passes as long as we don't let them get the deep threat going, and that seemed to be what was happening on the field.
I know a few of us on the board before the game thought this was a key: give up some short yardage passes as long as we don't let them get the deep threat going, and that seemed to be what was happening on the field.
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Re: CB Situation
without knowing what the play call was, its hard to harp on him for playing 8 yds off.wheaton4prez wrote:Attached a snapshot from the game showing Lewis (14) on Williams (18), running that screen-with-a-lot-of-room play.