ESPN reporting Taggart as Head coach

[Oregonian]

I just don't understand how you fire a coach based on a "win now, the window is closing" mentality and then turn around and hire a guy who has had 10 wins ONCE and has never won a conference... coaching in the group of 5. Like, I get it, dude has impressively taken programs from the bottom and gotten them to contend... but that's not what this job is. Yes, this is the first time we've lost this many games in a while, but nobody thinks that this program is in need of a complete rebuild that's going to take years to do.

We clearly made the move not just because of a 4-8 isn't good enough -- the 9-4 before it wasn't good enough either. We want to be in the running to play for and win conference and national championships. And somehow we turned around and hired a coach that has literally never done that on any level as a head coach.

[QuackininBama]

Oregon build the program using what I'm going to refer to as, "flash, dash, and winning". You had PK pour millions into the uniforms, the facilities, chrome helmets, and a heavy advertising campaign. Then you bring in Chip and his dash, teams scoring massive points, piling up ridiculous wins turning the head of every 17 year old high school senior who was thinking UCS or UCLA, maybe Stanford and suddenly the Ducks were at the top of the list for some of the best recruits in the country.

We lose Kelly to the NFL, had a great run to the championship with Mariota and the Heisman trophy, and the crash started. Giant cracks started to show, historic losses coupled with the resurgence of USC and Washington, and hell, even Washington State looking good. Colorado and Utah making huge strides and parity in the Pac-12 was here. Helf wasn't able to maintain the winning which removed another 3rd of the trifecta that made Oregon so powerful.
The nation caught onto the flash, now everyone has chrome helmets and improved facilities so its not really a factor for recruits anymore, not to mention the flash only carries weight if your winning.

The one remaining wild card the Ducks had to play was a rock star head coach. We needed a coach with an impressive resume, a swag about him or simply the name factor would do. We needed a big name. Period. When Taggart was named that removed the final 3rd of the puzzle. No dash, no flash, and a very average coaching hire who half the country had to probably google and scratch they're heads as to who the heck this guy was.

This has nothing to do with Taggart himself. He might be a good coach, a great guy and I hope he proves me wrong. But the fact remains, this hire will not keep the Ducks at the top of the college football world. We will no longer be talking in September about who we are going to play in the playoffs or how badly we are going to beat the Huskies or who is the wild card team we might face to win that forth slot. The Ducks will fall back to where we were during the Brooks era. A good football team who will go to bowls but not consistently be a top 10 program. This hire to me says that we were indeed a flash in the pan. We had a great run but couldn't do what the great schools do, maintain it. This hire says to me that Rob Mullens is ok with just being good and not great. And that in a kick in the gut. To me at least.

[Phenom]

Oregon build the program using what I'm going to refer to as, "flash, dash, and winning". You had PK pour millions into the uniforms, the facilities, chrome helmets, and a heavy advertising campaign. Then you bring in Chip and his dash, teams scoring massive points, piling up ridiculous wins turning the head of every 17 year old high school senior who was thinking UCS or UCLA, maybe Stanford and suddenly the Ducks were at the top of the list for some of the best recruits in the country.

We lose Kelly to the NFL, had a great run to the championship with Mariota and the Heisman trophy, and the crash started. Giant cracks started to show, historic losses coupled with the resurgence of USC and Washington, and hell, even Washington State looking good. Colorado and Utah making huge strides and parity in the Pac-12 was here. Helf wasn't able to maintain the winning which removed another 3rd of the trifecta that made Oregon so powerful.
The nation caught onto the flash, now everyone has chrome helmets and improved facilities so its not really a factor for recruits anymore, not to mention the flash only carries weight if your winning.

The one remaining wild card the Ducks had to play was a rock star head coach. We needed a coach with an impressive resume, a swag about him or simply the name factor would do. We needed a big name. Period. When Taggart was named that removed the final 3rd of the puzzle. No dash, no flash, and a very average coaching hire who half the country had to probably google and scratch they're heads as to who the heck this guy was.

This has nothing to do with Taggart himself. He might be a good coach, a great guy and I hope he proves me wrong. But the fact remains, this hire will not keep the Ducks at the top of the college football world. We will no longer be talking in September about who we are going to play in the playoffs or how badly we are going to beat the Huskies or who is the wild card team we might face to win that forth slot. The Ducks will fall back to where we were during the Brooks era. A good football team who will go to bowls but not consistently be a top 10 program. This hire to me says that we were indeed a flash in the pan. We had a great run but couldn't do what the great schools do, maintain it. This hire says to me that Rob Mullens is ok with just being good and not great. And that in a kick in the gut. To me at least.

The only rock star head coach besides Chip was Fleck and we didn't interview him. Taggart's teams score a lot of points.

[StevensTechU]

Based on what?

What specifically are you asking about?

[Duck24]

I think the fact that Fleck didn't land a P5 job and wasn't seriously considered for any of them lends credence to the reports of character/personality issues.

[Phenom]

Based on what?

What specifically are you asking about?

That he's more Graham and Mora than the other guys you mentioned (who besides Petersen are kinda "meh" themselves).

[Duckenstein]

LOL at the people who thought he was just a rooney rule

I'm all on board. Yeah the chip stuff got us all feeling some type of way last night but the fact that we have to fall back on taggart doesn't leave me with the punch to the gut feeling that some of us have right now.

As stated before he's turned around two s***box programs and has endorsements from two pretty damn good coaches. His D sucked last year, but the year before they were right around NA standards (lol)

I'm excited about the hire, but obviously I am really interested in who we hire as the DC.

The sky is not falling. This is a good hire.


Also I would like to know where the tweet/article that says Shaun King is his first hire?

40-45

[Phenom]

LOL at the people who thought he was just a rooney rule

I'm all on board. Yeah the chip stuff got us all feeling some type of way last night but the fact that we have to fall back on taggart doesn't leave me with the punch to the gut feeling that some of us have right now.

As stated before he's turned around two s***box programs and has endorsements from two pretty damn good coaches. His D sucked last year, but the year before they were right around NA standards (lol)

I'm excited about the hire, but obviously I am really interested in who we hire as the DC.

The sky is not falling. This is a good hire.


Also I would like to know where the tweet/article that says Shaun King is his first hire?

40-45

If you have nothing of substance to add then why are you posting here? We get it, you don't like the hire.

[Duckenstein]

Based on what?

What specifically are you asking about?

That he's more Graham and Mora than the other guys you mentioned (who besides Petersen are kinda "meh" themselves).

If those coaches are "Meh", then taggart is bottom tier.

[StevensTechU]

That he's more Graham and Mora than the other guys you mentioned (who besides Petersen are kinda "meh" themselves).

Coaches get interviewed every Saturday after wins/losses by the media. I've listened to several of Taggart's and they just aren't terribly inspiring. Some guys seem to 'get it,' and others speak in generalities that tend to speak to their inability to identify what went right/wrong. Recall Chip's ability to recall extremely specific details. He dissected the game like a top mechanic listens to a motor hum, and knows what the issues is with every bump and tick. There are quite a few coaches I feel like have that ability. Not sure Taggart does, based on those interviews.

[Phenom]

That he's more Graham and Mora than the other guys you mentioned (who besides Petersen are kinda "meh" themselves).

Coaches get interviewed every Saturday after wins/losses by the media. I've listened to several of Taggart's and they just aren't terribly inspiring. Some guys seem to 'get it,' and others speak in generalities that tend to speak to their inability to identify what went right/wrong. Recall Chip's ability to recall extremely specific details. He dissected the game like a top mechanic listens to a motor hum, and knows what the issues is with every bump and tick. There are quite a few coaches I feel like have that ability. Not sure Taggart does, based on those interviews.

Hmm...

[RPDuck21]

I can't understand why so many people are hating on the Taggart hire. I get the disappointment of Chip not coming back; that's valid. However, needlessly throwing 40-45 around like it accurately represents Taggart as a coach is ludicrous. Mark Helfrich's record may be far better, but look at the trajectory of their records: Taggart's has gone up. That should speak volumes, and is opposite of Helfrich's. He seems tough minded and likable. I can see him being a great recruiter and motivator.

We have to give him some time. A knee-jerk reaction claiming this is a terrible hire is not warranted by any facts we can look at. Yes, his defenses weren't great, but how many group of 5 defenses are good? How many G5 teams have great offenses and defenses at the same time? It doesn't happen.

I like Taggart's ability to adapt his offense, and his combination of zone and gap schemes. Give the man a chance. Who had heard of Chip when he was hired as OC? Who thought Altman was a great hire? That doesn't ensure Taggart will follow their successes, but it is certainly something to consider.

I'm excited to see the spring game, and I'm excited to see who Taggart hires at DC.

Go Ducks!!

[Juice]

LOL at the people who thought he was just a rooney rule

I'm all on board. Yeah the chip stuff got us all feeling some type of way last night but the fact that we have to fall back on taggart doesn't leave me with the punch to the gut feeling that some of us have right now.

As stated before he's turned around two s***box programs and has endorsements from two pretty damn good coaches. His D sucked last year, but the year before they were right around NA standards (lol)

I'm excited about the hire, but obviously I am really interested in who we hire as the DC.

The sky is not falling. This is a good hire.


Also I would like to know where the tweet/article that says Shaun King is his first hire?

40-45

doesn't matter that WKU was garbage when he took them over and he built them up, taking them to a bowl.
doesn't matter that USF was garbage and that he built them up, taking them to back to back bowls and winning 10 games this year.

40-45 is all that matters, you're right this is a crap hire.

[Duck24]

The same people clamoring that Helf's overall record didn't matter because of trajectory are now saying Taggart's trajectory doesn't matter because of his overall record.

To me, the bigger concerns are the analytics Dave Bartoo produces but we will see. Just want him in Eugene and to get this puppy rolling.

[SuperDuck]

I can't understand why so many people are hating on the Taggart hire. I get the disappointment of Chip not coming back; that's valid. However, needlessly throwing 40-45 around like it accurately represents Taggart as a coach is ludicrous. Mark Helfrich's record may be far better, but look at the trajectory of their records: Taggart's has gone up. That should speak volumes, and is opposite of Helfrich's. He seems tough minded and likable. I can see him being a great recruiter and motivator.

We have to give him some time. A knee-jerk reaction claiming this is a terrible hire is not warranted by any facts we can look at. Yes, his defenses weren't great, but how many group of 5 defenses are good? How many G5 teams have great offenses and defenses at the same time? It doesn't happen.

I like Taggart's ability to adapt his offense, and his combination of zone and gap schemes. Give the man a chance. Who had heard of Chip when he was hired as OC? Who thought Altman was a great hire? That doesn't ensure Taggart will follow their successes, but it is certainly something to consider.

I'm excited to see the spring game, and I'm excited to see who Taggart hires at DC.

Go Ducks!!

+1

Actually, his defense only gave up exactly 28 points per game last year. Not great, but certainly not awful, especially considering that the played Florida State, Temple, UCF, Navy and a couple other Bowl bound teams. They also beat Syracuse on the road.

Regarding his 40-45 record, both jobs he's held have been complete rebuilding projects. If you remove the first 2 years from each his overall record is 25-11.

In this scenario he's coming to a program that's already loaded with offensive talent, so he's gonna score a lot of points. If he can just improve the defense back to top-50+ form then the Ducks should be flying high again. I do think it's going to take a couple years, though.

We have to be patient and give the guy a chance.