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pudgejeff wrote:

Zyme wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

Zyme wrote:
But lordy my division sucks

East has gotten a lot worse in the last year.

The training camp killed some of us. Still have no idea how young teams with plenty of potential have largely negative TCs. Makes zero sense.

Ya it seemed weird, lots of guys 28-33 improving too.

It has to do with the pot of the later players being all over teh place. As the league move on, it wil even out. Like Moses malone looks the same so he had decent pot, meaning he's sticking around for a year or more yet. Only the rookie classes coming in, will there be more predicable progression. Sometime crazy stuff happen, but it is more predictable.

Wish I'd have know that before filling my team with rookies who were 1st round picks in the 88 draft lol.

You could easily move all the assets you have to try and start winning at any time though.

lukeyrid13 wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

Zyme wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote: East has gotten a lot worse in the last year.

The training camp killed some of us. Still have no idea how young teams with plenty of potential have largely negative TCs. Makes zero sense.

Ya it seemed weird, lots of guys 28-33 improving too.

It has to do with the pot of the later players being all over teh place. As the league move on, it wil even out. Like Moses malone looks the same so he had decent pot, meaning he's sticking around for a year or more yet. Only the rookie classes coming in, will there be more predicable progression. Sometime crazy stuff happen, but it is more predictable.

Wish I'd have know that before filling my team with rookies who were 1st round picks in the 88 draft lol.

You could easily move all the assets you have to try and start winning at any time though.

I don't see how that has any relevance?

pudgejeff wrote:

Zyme wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

Zyme wrote:
But lordy my division sucks

East has gotten a lot worse in the last year.

The training camp killed some of us. Still have no idea how young teams with plenty of potential have largely negative TCs. Makes zero sense.

Ya it seemed weird, lots of guys 28-33 improving too.

It has to do with the pot of the later players being all over teh place. As the league move on, it wil even out. Like Moses malone looks the same so he had decent pot, meaning he's sticking around for a year or more yet. Only the rookie classes coming in, will there be more predicable progression. Sometime crazy stuff happen, but it is more predictable.

Wish I'd have know that before filling my team with rookies who were 1st round picks in the 88 draft lol.

No kidding, would have been nice to know my young guys with good potential would all get worse and have their potential drop as well.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:
No kidding, would have been nice to know my young guys with good potential would all get worse and have their potential drop as well.

This is the one that got me .

9-3 = 2nd best record overall.
Wow! Is everyone tanking again?

play like that in the regular season and it may be time for a firesale

thats the problem with creation drafts, potentials tend to be scattered...normal drafts will be much more predictable

pudgejeff wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

Zyme wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote: The training camp killed some of us. Still have no idea how young teams with plenty of potential have largely negative TCs. Makes zero sense.

Ya it seemed weird, lots of guys 28-33 improving too.

It has to do with the pot of the later players being all over teh place. As the league move on, it wil even out. Like Moses malone looks the same so he had decent pot, meaning he's sticking around for a year or more yet. Only the rookie classes coming in, will there be more predicable progression. Sometime crazy stuff happen, but it is more predictable.

Wish I'd have know that before filling my team with rookies who were 1st round picks in the 88 draft lol.

You could easily move all the assets you have to try and start winning at any time though.

I don't see how that has any relevance?

Even though they didn't improve as much as you'd like you still have a lot of players with good value.

lukeyrid13 wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:

pudgejeff wrote:

Zyme wrote:

pudgejeff wrote: Ya it seemed weird, lots of guys 28-33 improving too.

It has to do with the pot of the later players being all over teh place. As the league move on, it wil even out. Like Moses malone looks the same so he had decent pot, meaning he's sticking around for a year or more yet. Only the rookie classes coming in, will there be more predicable progression. Sometime crazy stuff happen, but it is more predictable.

Wish I'd have know that before filling my team with rookies who were 1st round picks in the 88 draft lol.

You could easily move all the assets you have to try and start winning at any time though.

I don't see how that has any relevance?

Even though they didn't improve as much as you'd like you still have a lot of players with good value.

Unless I'm mistaken with my evaluations I have 5 guys of value and 2 of them were signed in FA and one was my lottery pick this year. All the other rookies I filled my team with seem to have no value at all.

Nice to get some perspective on these players

Now to reply to them PMs

Brophdog88 wrote:thats the problem with creation drafts, potentials tend to be scattered...normal drafts will be much more predictable

This. Plus I usually spend weeks on a league file and try to tweak everything to be as accurate as possible. I probably spent like a few hours on this file in total. So I take responsibility for that, but in 2 years, everything will be as it should and should be consistent.

I have no problem with the potentials and how players grow or decrease. If it was straight forward then someone could just pick A potential players and just ride them each year. Thats what I like about the sim, you do not know what player will grow or regress. Its a crap shoot as it is in real life.

Oregon Ownage wrote:I have no problem with the potentials and how players grow or decrease. If it was straight forward then someone could just pick A potential players and just ride them each year. Thats what I like about the sim, you do not know what player will grow or regress. Its a crap shoot as it is in real life.

The fun part is that potential letter is only a reflection of the players' true potential. It usually settles around year 3-4 but you could have a player with 100 shown pot (max A), and only 50 true pot

My favorite result of the Pre-season:

Dino Radja PF 32 8 9 0 0 0 0 12 4 2 2 2 3 16
Charles Barkley PF 40 6 16 0 0 0 2 16 4 2 0 3 1 12

Dino going toe to toe with Sir Charles and holding him in check in a 29 point win.

Oregon Ownage wrote:I have no problem with the potentials and how players grow or decrease. If it was straight forward then someone could just pick A potential players and just ride them each year. Thats what I like about the sim, you do not know what player will grow or regress. Its a crap shoot as it is in real life.

Oh totally. I've seen players with ratings of C+ C+ C C+ C A and 100 potential, where I test simmed them 10 times, would end up B A- C+ A- C C. But then when it came to the actual sim, he ended up like B- B- C B+ C.

Nothing's for certain, but at the same time, if you have a high level of skill beyond taking advantage of newer GMs, you can pretty consistently do well in sims.

So if you're good, you'll still win. But not everything goes by the book, just like real life.