Masoli charged

[greenyellow]

If Chip doesn't allow Masoli to get back, could he enter the draft?

He could end up in the Supplemental Draft that is held after the regular NFL draft. I doubt he would get drafted as a QB since he hasn't proven to be a consistent passer yet and his size is not that of a typical NFL QB (but say that to Drew Brees).

[cordy02c]

I think it's too late for this year but even if it wasn't I doubt he would get picked because he's too short and is not a good enough passer and his caracter issues wouldn't help at all

[greenyellow]

I think it's too late for this year but even if it wasn't I doubt he would get picked because he's too short and is not a good enough passer and his caracter issues wouldn't help at all

No, I think you enter anytime after the regular filing date for the NFL Draft but at least a month in advance before the actual draft takes place.

[UOducksTK1]

If Chip doesn't allow Masoli to get back, could he enter the draft?

He could end up in the Supplemental Draft that is held after the regular NFL draft. I doubt he would get drafted as a QB since he hasn't proven to be a consistent passer yet and his size is not that of a typical NFL QB (but say that to Drew Brees).

That would be a bummer for him. Tough spot since he's a senior..

[uo2010]

If Chip doesn't allow Masoli to get back, could he enter the draft?

He could end up in the Supplemental Draft that is held after the regular NFL draft. I doubt he would get drafted as a QB since he hasn't proven to be a consistent passer yet and his size is not that of a typical NFL QB (but say that to Drew Brees).

That would be a bummer for him. Tough spot since he's a senior..

Doesnt he have a red shirt still left? If so, would he be allowed to use it if suspended for the year?

[Greydrake]

Agree with others that Chip has painted himself into a corner, Kelly's cred is totally shot if he doesn't drop the hammer. There is a point of damage control with LMJ, which requires any discipline action being open and not an internal.

Frankly LMJ needs to speak of the discipline situation since Kelly's hands are tied.

[Autzenoise]

If Chip doesn't allow Masoli to get back, could he enter the draft?

He could end up in the Supplemental Draft that is held after the regular NFL draft. I doubt he would get drafted as a QB since he hasn't proven to be a consistent passer yet and his size is not that of a typical NFL QB (but say that to Drew Brees).

That would be a bummer for him. Tough spot since he's a senior..

I can only imagine you are saying this thinking that he is not guilty. If he actually does get kicked off the team for being guilty or lying to Chip, then I don't know why anyone would think this was a "bummer" due to his own actions getting him here. Not only his actions, but actions that are very similar to a situation that he was already given a second chance from.

The tough spot he is in is due to poor decision making. Very rarely (and I mean like .001% of the time, my opinion obviously) is someone put in a tough spot by things other than their own actions or poor decision making. I don't qualify this with him being guilty or not due to the fact that if there is enough evidence to charge him, than he made some poor decisions up to the point that someone did steal the goods. Even if he didn't touch anything, he put himself in a position that he was able to be seen with the person/people that did this, and/or in the area that he had no business being. Wether or not anyone wants to admit it when it is our guys doing this stuff, they NEED to be held to a higher standard. Chip says playing football is a privilege, and with that they have higher expectations. If they can't handle making better decisions than the average college kid, then maybe they don't deserve this extremely rare, and special privilege.

[brich75]

The thing that burns me is that he has had his chance already so has Lamike. They have both been found guilty of similar crimes and still got a chance to go to college and be stars. Yet didn't learn their lessons. Of course if they are found not guilty I will gladly eat my words.

[justducky0]

although things don't look good, i'm still on the innocent until proven guilty side. nonetheless, i was researching some quotes about darron thomas and found this one a little surprising:

I have been infatuated with Darron Thomas. Thomas, other than maybe Will HIll up in Jersey, has the quickest feet in the nation. His acceleration and explosion is unreal. He goes from standing in the pocket to full speed as fast as anyone I have seen in years. 6-3, 190 pounds, can run like crazy, going to Oregon. Sound familiar Dennis Dixon fans? Unlike Dixon, Thomas has the frame to put weight on. Dixon was incredibly wiry and I think it cost him with the injury. Thomas is much thicker.

i knew he had great quickness, i just didn't know it was viewed in that high of a regard coming out of high school.

that last part about the injury is funny.....It does not matter what your build is when it comes to the ACL

[ducklovinlady]

The thing that burns me is that he has had his chance already so has Lamike. They have both been found guilty of similar crimes and still got a chance to go to college and be stars. Yet didn't learn their lessons. Of course if they are found not guilty I will gladly eat my words.

I don't think your post is entirely correct. LMJ was not found guilty of a similiar crime. The only incident that has been reported was a 20 person fight with a rivalry football team in HS. Those charges were dropped.

But comeon, even if he WERE found guilty, we are now going to say "they didn't learn their lesson" for a high school fight??

[brich75]

The thing that burns me is that he has had his chance already so has Lamike. They have both been found guilty of similar crimes and still got a chance to go to college and be stars. Yet didn't learn their lessons. Of course if they are found not guilty I will gladly eat my words.

I don't think your post is entirely correct. LMJ was not found guilty of a similiar crime. The only incident that has been reported was a 20 person fight with a rivalry football team in HS. Those charges were dropped.

But comeon, even if he WERE found guilty, we are now going to say "they didn't learn their lesson" for a high school fight??

You didn't know the difference between right and wrong in High school? Or college for that matter? Don't get it twisted though, I am not one of the people wanting them booted. If found guilty I would be cool with them being punished the old fashioned way by running after practice till they puke.
If the courts order some community service or probation than that's fine. No need to jump the gun on them because the media says so!

[ducklovinlady]

The thing that burns me is that he has had his chance already so has Lamike. They have both been found guilty of similar crimes and still got a chance to go to college and be stars. Yet didn't learn their lessons. Of course if they are found not guilty I will gladly eat my words.

I don't think your post is entirely correct. LMJ was not found guilty of a similiar crime. The only incident that has been reported was a 20 person fight with a rivalry football team in HS. Those charges were dropped.

But comeon, even if he WERE found guilty, we are now going to say "they didn't learn their lesson" for a high school fight??

You didn't know the difference between right and wrong in High school? Or college for that matter? Don't get it twisted though, I am not one of the people wanting them booted. If found guilty I would be cool with them being punished the old fashioned way by running after practice till they puke.
If the courts order some community service or probation than that's fine. No need to jump the gun on them because the media says so!

Well yes I did know the difference between right and wrong, but that doesn't mean I didn't make stupid choices in those periods of my life and now look back and think "THANK GOD I didn't get caught." Just because I wasn't caught, doesn't mean I didn't do things that I'm not proud of. I highly doubt there is a single person out there that doesn't have at least something they aren't proud of either.

However, I'm not going to declare a high school fight immoral and say that the person has had an opportunity to show they are above that. Comeon- high school and college is a highly violatile place. Alcohol flows, and fights break out. I'm not saying it's right, but I also don't think we need to look at the people that maybe participated in a physical fight as a "thug" (not that you called them that...some have though!). I don't know about you, but I have plenty of friends that I would be able to say are heathens for their actions. My husband even plays on a flag football team of GROWN adults and fights break out all the time. I doubt those guys will lose their jobs for that...

That being said, I do agree that athletes need to be smarter and make better choices to truly appreciate the gift they were given. As a one time student athlete myself, I can say I was highly disciplined in season, but off season (which is SHORT!) not so much. I kinda feel for some of these guys getting busted for underage drinking in the off season. Sure, it's against the law, but it's a ridiculous law to begin with. (By the way, I'm one of those people that sometimes talks on my cell phone while driving. Clearly, I have issues with laws. )

[Greenblood]

Since Chip says he'll "make a decision regarding disciplinary action on Friday, March 12" on Masoli and James, it doesn't appear as though he will wait for some kind of official verdict from a trial. Sounds like he's ready to go with the discipline.

[ducklovinlady]

Since Chip says he'll "make a decision regarding disciplinary action on Friday, March 12" on Masoli and James, it doesn't appear as though he will wait for some kind of official verdict from a trial. Sounds like he's ready to go with the discipline.

He must have gathered all the facts he was wanting. It seems that Chip doesn't really wait for the law to issue their verdicts- since Alonso and Bowlin were both disciplined before their day in court. But I would venture those guys confessed to him.

[brich75]

The thing that burns me is that he has had his chance already so has Lamike. They have both been found guilty of similar crimes and still got a chance to go to college and be stars. Yet didn't learn their lessons. Of course if they are found not guilty I will gladly eat my words.

I don't think your post is entirely correct. LMJ was not found guilty of a similiar crime. The only incident that has been reported was a 20 person fight with a rivalry football team in HS. Those charges were dropped.

But comeon, even if he WERE found guilty, we are now going to say "they didn't learn their lesson" for a high school fight??

You didn't know the difference between right and wrong in High school? Or college for that matter? Don't get it twisted though, I am not one of the people wanting them booted. If found guilty I would be cool with them being punished the old fashioned way by running after practice till they puke.
If the courts order some community service or probation than that's fine. No need to jump the gun on them because the media says so!

Well yes I did know the difference between right and wrong, but that doesn't mean I didn't make stupid choices in those periods of my life and now look back and think "THANK GOD I didn't get caught." Just because I wasn't caught, doesn't mean I didn't do things that I'm not proud of. I highly doubt there is a single person out there that doesn't have at least something they aren't proud of either.

However, I'm not going to declare a high school fight immoral and say that the person has had an opportunity to show they are above that. Comeon- high school and college is a highly violatile place. Alcohol flows, and fights break out. I'm not saying it's right, but I also don't think we need to look at the people that maybe participated in a physical fight as a "thug" (not that you called them that...some have though!). I don't know about you, but I have plenty of friends that I would be able to say are heathens for their actions. My husband even plays on a flag football team of GROWN adults and fights break out all the time. I doubt those guys will lose their jobs for that...

That being said, I do agree that athletes need to be smarter and make better choices to truly appreciate the gift they were given. As a one time student athlete myself, I can say I was highly disciplined in season, but off season (which is SHORT!) not so much. I kinda feel for some of these guys getting busted for underage drinking in the off season. Sure, it's against the law, but it's a ridiculous law to begin with. (By the way, I'm one of those people that sometimes talks on my cell phone while driving. Clearly, I have issues with laws. )

I agree with what you are saying. I went out last weekend for the first time in 2 years.(since I became a deputy) I went to a popular place around Eugene. (the Rodeo) Seemed like every 15 minutes there was a fight or almost a fight its not just college kids either. There were 35 year old men in there looking for someone to make eye contact with them just so they could be tough. I quickly realized a couple things.
1. it definitely is not my scene anymore I got annoyed by everything, but that's probably because i was drinking ice water.
2. No matter how old you are when you drink you are the baddest man on the planet.
3. It's not just Oregon ducks that are drinking and driving. Or fighting with their girlfriends. I saw one drunk girl slap 3 different guys. One was right in front of a bouncer. She wasn't tossed out or even talked to about it.
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