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Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:22 am
by pistolpetejr
Hey fellow GMs!

Hope you find the tables below insightful. Nice to see how teams fare up when it comes to number of possessions per game and offensive and defensive efficiency, or oRTG and dRTG respectively, as well as netRTG. See how you mount up in regards to the league average and against the competition in your division, conference, and league-wide.

The stats have been compiled from data as of day 45, which is a great sample size. Now, obviously there have been a few key trades lately and so context is key!

For those interested in the details, possessions were calculated by using the common formula below:

Possessions = 0.96 * (FGA - oREB + TO + (0.44 * FTA))

oREB is the biggest rough estimate, as FBB does not distinguish between dREB and oREB, and so based on the NBA rate of 27%, the formula used is oREB = 0.27 * Team RPG. Granted, the league is different today and it was in the late 90s, but again, it's a rough estimate and shouldn't change the results much as it's 27% across the board.

For those not as knowledgeable about dRTG, the lower the better.

Results below:

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Quite honestly, I'm very surprised with the Sixers ranking 1st in possessions. But then when you look at their stats, they're top-5 in RPG and take 33 FTA/game, wow. But then their offensive efficiency is second-to-last at 28th. Crazy.

Took a while to compile and get all of the data going, so I hope you all enjoy and discuss!

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:00 am
by duckyoubeavers
cool stuff! ive been thinking about adding this to the advanced stats site but been too lazy.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:48 am
by lukeyrid13
Oh no, we suck again!

Tank is running full steam ahead this year

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:53 am
by pistolpetejr
Already a +3 smh lol
It takes time to do this… oh well. (:

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:55 am
by JB
Top 5 offense but a below average defense.

We struggle with rebounding and opponent FTAs per game. Think Ben will really help there, and with his low usage, won't impact the offense too much.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:49 am
by FlDuckFan
We are way worse than I thought

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:52 am
by pistolpetejr
FlDuckFan wrote:We are way worse than I thought
I think you could really do wonders for your team with simple DC changes. Running fast/very fast isn't working for you because you don't have stellar scorers. Slow it down, get those shooting efficiencies up, and I think you'll see some improvements. Also, I think you could experiment with a more balanced attack.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:54 am
by pistolpetejr
JB wrote:Top 5 offense but a below average defense.

We struggle with rebounding and opponent FTAs per game. Think Ben will really help there, and with his low usage, won't impact the offense too much.
Think Ben will help some, you're right. I think you could also benefit from a decent guard/wing option in addition to Marshall. Right now, you're running Kidd-Spree-Marshall, all starting, with a touch of Collier. Think fatigue kicks in on the team and you end up with inconsistent results because of that.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:18 am
by Cellar-door
Interesting that even with injuries to my best scorer (and playing a negative at PF) my offense is still really good. D is struggling, but acceptable.
Probably could use to turn Felton into a more rounded PF, though I guess I could try going all in on offense by starting L. Williams, but I think that's diminishing returns.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:58 am
by JB
pistolpetejr wrote:
JB wrote:Top 5 offense but a below average defense.

We struggle with rebounding and opponent FTAs per game. Think Ben will really help there, and with his low usage, won't impact the offense too much.
Think Ben will help some, you're right. I think you could also benefit from a decent guard/wing option in addition to Marshall. Right now, you're running Kidd-Spree-Marshall, all starting, with a touch of Collier. Think fatigue kicks in on the team and you end up with inconsistent results because of that.
Don't think fatigue is a thing tbh

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:06 pm
by pistolpetejr
JB wrote:
pistolpetejr wrote:
JB wrote:Top 5 offense but a below average defense.

We struggle with rebounding and opponent FTAs per game. Think Ben will really help there, and with his low usage, won't impact the offense too much.
Think Ben will help some, you're right. I think you could also benefit from a decent guard/wing option in addition to Marshall. Right now, you're running Kidd-Spree-Marshall, all starting, with a touch of Collier. Think fatigue kicks in on the team and you end up with inconsistent results because of that.
Don't think fatigue is a thing tbh
It is. Things like pressing and trapping often lead to fatigue (ie. sacrificing things like efficiency, for example). At least, I think it is. Unless I'm misremembering things.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:10 pm
by JB
pistolpetejr wrote:
JB wrote:
pistolpetejr wrote:
JB wrote:Top 5 offense but a below average defense.

We struggle with rebounding and opponent FTAs per game. Think Ben will really help there, and with his low usage, won't impact the offense too much.
Think Ben will help some, you're right. I think you could also benefit from a decent guard/wing option in addition to Marshall. Right now, you're running Kidd-Spree-Marshall, all starting, with a touch of Collier. Think fatigue kicks in on the team and you end up with inconsistent results because of that.
Don't think fatigue is a thing tbh
It is. Things like pressing and trapping often lead to fatigue (ie. sacrificing things like efficiency, for example). At least, I think it is. Unless I'm misremembering things.
Pretty sure it doesn't exist within the game unless it's some underlying thing. Pressing and trapping never does anything for me other than foul my guys out faster. I might press with elite stealing. Don't think I will ever trap though

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:33 pm
by Skyhooker
Geesh.

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:11 pm
by the goat
Great defense with a horrible offense. Sounds about right...

Re: Possessions and Efficiency - Day 45

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:11 pm
by duckyoubeavers
Trap Frequency: This is how often your team will apply extra defensive pressure in a half-court setting. The benefit is that you will be more likely to get steals. However, it also will cause your players to become tired faster and can also lead to increased fouls. (Always-Often-Normal-Sometimes-Never)

Press Frequency: This is how often your team will apply extra defensive pressure in backcourt. The benefit is that you will be more likely to get steals. However, it also will cause your players to become tired faster and can also lead to increased fouls. (Always-Often-Normal-Sometimes-Never)
going off the above from the how to post a depth chart page, there is fatigue within a game which will cause your players to be subbed out sooner than if you werent pressing/trapping but theres no game to game fatigue factor