Here is a good example of why not to rely on media reporting. Looks like they intentionally withheld *why* the Pretti guy was on their radar to begin with. Here is the CNN article:
"Federal immigration officers have been collecting personal information about protesters and agitators in Minneapolis, sources told CNN – and had documented details about Alex Pretti before he was shot to death on Saturday.
It is unclear how Pretti first came to the attention of federal authorities, but sources told CNN that about a week before his death, he suffered a broken rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals."
And then compare that to the video that just got released. A little bit of context missing, I would say.
Unfortunately, with a lot of these types of events, many of the facts get withheld for too long while the incident goes through investigation.
But much of the time, the damage has already been done and the narrative has been established, and the ensuing rioting/damage is irreversible.
Think about the shooting Michael Brown and the burning of Ferguson, Missouri.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:53 pm
by Phalanx
Okay, fine, but does that justify killing him? I am not a fan of all of these posthumous attempts to assasinate the dude's character as if that makes ending his life okay. I assumed while watching the earlier videos that a myriad of unheard expletives were pouring from all of their mouths. I also wonder if they were telling Pretti during that wrestling match on the ground that he was under arrest, or maybe the woman on whose behalf he seemed to be interceding and to what degree he was resisting either his own arrest or hers. That's why an investigation would be beneficial. A lot of context we still don't know.
This video is interesting, and it does confirm that he was not just 'observing' and that he was not some paragon of virtue as he has been depicted here and elsewhere. He contributed to the escalation of the situation. It doesn't justify him being shot numerous times. CPB agents still have a lot to answer for, and I hope there is a court case or some kind of serious investigation. Not by DHS, who have released ridiculous statements on the matter thus far and clearly lack anything like objectivity.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:16 pm
by dd10snoop28
Phalanx wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:53 pm
Okay, fine, but does that justify killing him? I am not a fan of all of these posthumous attempts to assasinate the dude's character as if that makes ending his life okay. I assumed while watching the earlier videos that a myriad of unheard expletives were pouring from all of their mouths. I also wonder if they were telling Pretti during that wrestling match on the ground that he was under arrest, or maybe the woman on whose behalf he seemed to be interceding and to what degree he was resisting either his own arrest or hers. That's why an investigation would be beneficial. A lot of context we still don't know.
This video is interesting, and it does confirm that he was not just 'observing' and that he was not some paragon of virtue as he has been depicted here and elsewhere. He contributed to the escalation of the situation. It doesn't justify him being shot numerous times. CPB agents still have a lot to answer for, and I hope there is a court case or some kind of serious investigation. Not by DHS, who have released ridiculous statements on the matter thus far and clearly lack anything like objectivity.
It's a similar situation as the Ashley Babbitt shooting. The only difference is that Ashley was never violent with law enforcement. Unfortunately for Babbitt, she was surrounded by a group of people who were engaged in criminal activity and so, while I think that the officer in that case was less justified to use deadly force on her than in the Minnesota example, I don't think he should have been charged for it. While I think the officer in the Babbitt case was more reckless (although still TBD based on what the ICE officer knew about Pretti), neither of these situations should cause a media/national uproar is my take.
But I don't think this is the relevant question for this situation. This is a symptom of much deeper problem.
Why wasn't Pretti arrested and charged with obstruction? Why did Minnesota police not make any attempt to arrest Pretti (because they purpsefully withdrew...why?)? Why wasn't his concealed carry license revoked for obstruction of LEO's?
Why didn't the media/public make a national uproar when an ANTI-ICE individual targeted and assisnated three people specifically because they were in an ICE van? Why weren't there protests against this targeted assisnantion and the violence/obstruction/doxxing/stalking faced by ICE officers on a daily basis?
Why did local/state government officials publicly denounce ICE and and ICE agents after such targeted assisnantions occured? Seems like reckless rhetoric that may lead to further violence against ICE agents?
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:41 pm
by UOducksTK1
Don't agree with all his points, but a reasonable take. And yes blue state leadership are resisting law and should be responsible for public insurrection because of the dangerous narratives.
I can only read two messages on this, but you guys sound so horny for tryanny that I wonder why you don't just get into BDSM and let the rest of us live in a free country.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 11:05 pm
by greenyellow
StevensTechU wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 9:40 pm
I can only read two messages on this, but you guys sound so horny for tryanny that I wonder why you don't just get into BDSM and let the rest of us live in a free country.
Says a lot about you that you'd rather block and insult everyone. In what world is allowing mass illegal immigration, crime, and fraud to run rampant or trying to censor, demonize, and cancel anyone who thinks differently than you a free country? What you've got isn't tyranny since almost nowhere else is having the type of reaction that Minnesota is having to immigration enforcement. That's a direct reflection of how Walz, Frey, and leaders in Minnesota have decided to play their hand.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:38 am
by Phalanx
StevensTechU wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 9:40 pm
I can only read two messages on this, but you guys sound so horny for tryanny that I wonder why you don't just get into BDSM and let the rest of us live in a free country.
Oh man, I'm back to being blocked? It's like Dwight Schrute with the shun/unshun routine.
I am trying to exercise some restraint, but I will say that going back to the old thread has been pretty entertaining tonight.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:57 am
by greenyellow
Now you've got a mob harassing off-duty TSA employees for supposedly being ICE agents down in CA. Absolute stupidity from these protesters.
Why is it only blue states have news worthy act of insanity happening…… rhetorical
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:00 pm
by StevensTechU
More posts deleted by the ever-vigilant and most certainly not incredibly biased moderators.
Gentlemen - You have my word that I will not exceed the brashness or vulgarity of the president currently in office that many of you voted for. I will hold myself to the level of professionalism displayed by the President of the United States of America. I'm sure folks will find a way to argue against that because they don't own mirrors to look into.
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:17 pm
by dd10snoop28
Still don’t understand why there was not national outrage amongst the media when the anti-ICE rhetoric demonstrated by public officials led to the assasination of three men who were targeted because they were in an ICE van, while the assassin had anti-ICE rhetoric on the bullet shells.
Many of these people out on the streets of Minnesota are demonstrating erratic, unstable, and criminal behavior. Mass arrests by the DOJ need to be occurring asap.
Also, I just heard a statistic the other day that 50% of the ICE officers are Latino. Sounds unreal, but wow! Patriots!
Re: Media Malpractice
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:35 pm
by greenyellow
StevensTechU wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:00 pm
More posts deleted by the ever-vigilant and most certainly not incredibly biased moderators.
Gentlemen - You have my word that I will not exceed the brashness or vulgarity of the president currently in office that many of you voted for. I will hold myself to the level of professionalism displayed by the President of the United States of America. I'm sure folks will find a way to argue against that because they don't own mirrors to look into.
Were there posts deleted this morning? I'm just checking in for the first time during lunch so I have no clue what you're talking about.
Also, you and nobody else are victims on this board. No one is forcing you to discuss or read politics here.
