Time to get a new OL coach

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alxtw wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:15 pm Its way too early to call for Terry's head. If things aren't better by the end of this year or next year, I'm sure DL will be the first to fire him or let him go.

Also, I don't think the OL's performance last year is an accurate indication of Terry's abilities. Those guys weren't Terry's recruits and coaching/development. The jury is still out on Terry. Let's give the guy a chance and see what he can do with a healthy OL of his own recruits and coaching/development.
Can he not develop guys that he didn’t recruit? It was Conerly’s first year starting, JPJ’s first full season and first season playing center, Cornelius’s first year in FBS. Did they not progress at all between 2022 and 2023? Sure, it’s not the full picture, as multiple coaches have contributed to their development over the years, but to give him no credit also doesn’t seem right. The thing with offensive line, is you won’t see a line primarily of your guys until year 3 or 4, so next year would be the first time I’d expect to accurately be able to gauge his recruiting. They could potentially be replacing 4 starters though at that time, so there could be growing pains in that respect, as well.
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alxtw wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:15 pm Its way too early to call for Terry's head. If things aren't better by the end of this year or next year, I'm sure DL will be the first to fire him or let him go.

Also, I don't think the OL's performance last year is an accurate indication of Terry's abilities. Those guys weren't Terry's recruits and coaching/development. The jury is still out on Terry. Let's give the guy a chance and see what he can do with a healthy OL of his own recruits and coaching/development.
not a good showing but Terry should get more time. You can't simulate game play experience so hopefully Pickard and the rest of the right side can figure it out as the season progresses.

At a certain point, Stein, knowing that his OL is problematic, needs to find a way to score more than 24 points against a FCS school.
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UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:44 pm Probably the worst OL showing we’ve seen in years.
Woke up today thinking about this. I'd say the last time the OL was this problematic would be the Doug Brenner TCU game.

I think connerly and Cornelius can figure it out. I always struggled with seeing Harper as an NFL player but he can be solid for college.

I'm really hopeful that they just got in their heads and can work it out. They have 5 guys who you individually have the ability, counting Bedford and Poncho.

Terry hasn't been at Oregon long but I do have a bone to pick with his recruiting.
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StevensTechU wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:00 am
UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:44 pm Probably the worst OL showing we’ve seen in years.
Woke up today thinking about this. I'd say the last time the OL was this problematic would be the Doug Brenner TCU game.

I think connerly and Cornelius can figure it out. I always struggled with seeing Harper as an NFL player but he can be solid for college.

I'm really hopeful that they just got in their heads and can work it out. They have 5 guys who you individually have the ability, counting Bedford and Poncho.

Terry hasn't been at Oregon long but I do have a bone to pick with his recruiting.
See this is why I'm optimistic, it seems like Poncho, Cornelius, and Conerly played their worst game collectively compared to any game last year. It's just mind boggling that it happened against Idaho. You'd think a bad game against Idaho would still be 40 points (opposed to 60+).

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I realized that my recording of the Idaho game did not work. Now I'm worried that the recording didn't work, not that it didn't record that game. Next up.
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While the OL certainly wasn't up to standards. That unit has to have the most chemistry on the field besides the wideouts and QB. On top of game speed and physicality, I think they deserve some leeway on report cards. With that being said, 3 of the 5 starters played together last year. Need some leadership out of older guys like Harper and Cornelius to pull the interior up to where they need to be. I would say leadership goes the furthest on the OL compared to other position units. Or maybe just take the old-fashioned route and get them on a 5-man sled and see which way it turns after they drive it 15 yards. Plug n play baby!
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hslack wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:55 pm While the OL certainly wasn't up to standards. That unit has to have the most chemistry on the field besides the wideouts and QB. On top of game speed and physicality, I think they deserve some leeway on report cards. With that being said, 3 of the 5 starters played together last year. Need some leadership out of older guys like Harper and Cornelius to pull the interior up to where they need to be. I would say leadership goes the furthest on the OL compared to other position units. Or maybe just take the old-fashioned route and get them on a 5-man sled and see which way it turns after they drive it 15 yards. Plug n play baby!
The difference between the 4th quarter and the rest of the game was pretty stark. They got better. The exception is that Poncho got abused by the interior Idaho lineman, and Pickard wasn't a ton better but usually didn't have a DL lining up over his nose so it stuck out less. I think we all got way too ahead ourselves in anointing Poncho the next great Oregon lineman.
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Anecdotally a lot of the team might have been up to some shenanigans the night before. Several lineman were puking during warm ups. The Boise State game will probably indicate if there was any truth to the rumor.

The last time I saw this happen was the Aloha Bowl against Colorado. The entire team stayed up all night drinking before the game. After that Belotti started sequestering the team in hotels the night before games.
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spacefrog13x wrote:Anecdotally a lot of the team might have been up to some shenanigans the night before. Several lineman were puking during warm ups. The Boise State game will probably indicate if there was any truth to the rumor.

The last time I saw this happen was the Aloha Bowl against Colorado. The entire team stayed up all night drinking before the game. After that Belotti started sequestering the team in hotels the night before games.
This was posted on Scoop Duck. Someone said his wife made this ‘observation ‘ because they had a field pass and were watching them do pregame drills.

Pretty sure they stay in a hotel the night before a game.


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lmduck wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:40 am
spacefrog13x wrote:Anecdotally a lot of the team might have been up to some shenanigans the night before. Several lineman were puking during warm ups. The Boise State game will probably indicate if there was any truth to the rumor.

The last time I saw this happen was the Aloha Bowl against Colorado. The entire team stayed up all night drinking before the game. After that Belotti started sequestering the team in hotels the night before games.
This was posted on Scoop Duck. Someone said his wife made this ‘observation ‘ because they had a field pass and were watching them do pregame drills.

Pretty sure they stay in a hotel the night before a game.


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The hotel thing is true and there are room checks so the claim is probably dubious.
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spacefrog13x wrote:
lmduck wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:40 am
spacefrog13x wrote:Anecdotally a lot of the team might have been up to some shenanigans the night before. Several lineman were puking during warm ups. The Boise State game will probably indicate if there was any truth to the rumor.

The last time I saw this happen was the Aloha Bowl against Colorado. The entire team stayed up all night drinking before the game. After that Belotti started sequestering the team in hotels the night before games.
This was posted on Scoop Duck. Someone said his wife made this ‘observation ‘ because they had a field pass and were watching them do pregame drills.

Pretty sure they stay in a hotel the night before a game.


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The hotel thing is true and there are room checks so the claim is probably dubious.
There are room checks and my guess had there been any ‘issues’ Dan would have taken action which certainly may have not been made public but I doubt in the team hotel there was a big party or the mini bar was raided.

The nature of the beast of message boards is stuff like this gets posted and then takes on a life of its own.


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If they were puking, maybe they weren’t hydrated well with the heat or had a flu bug?
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OregonFan4Life wrote:If they were puking, maybe they weren’t hydrated well with the heat or had a flu bug?
Certainly a possibility. It was very hot and I can only imagine it was worse on the field.


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