MBB: Oregon vs Auburn (Mon 5 pm, truTv)

[Ghost of Tajuan Porter]

Steve Pearl is a world class crybaby. He never stops begging for fouls. Fucking despicable.

I don’t want Altman to reach that level of whining but gosh sometimes I wish he got in the refs’ ears more.


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That’s been my biggest beef with Altman throughout his tenure. He gets steamrolled by bad ref crews constantly. He has to beat the other team and the refs all the time.

[OregonFan4Life]

Shelstad is one of my least favorite players to watch. Love when his shot is dropping but he just drives me nuts.

Same. I had really hoped that by now in his career he would’ve progressed beyond someone who is only an asset on the court when his shot is falling. His game isn’t near as diverse as it should be by his third year at Oregon.


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[whosyourwally]

Always tough when the other team has a guy (Pettiford) go off for a once in a career game. Kid was ice cold coming in.


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[whosyourwally]

Shelstad is one of my least favorite players to watch. Love when his shot is dropping but he just drives me nuts.

Same. I had really hoped that by now in his career he would’ve progressed beyond someone who is only an asset on the court when his shot is falling. His game isn’t near as diverse as it should be by his third year at Oregon.


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Still hoping we get 2nd half Shelstad tonight. Still time.


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[OregonFan4Life]

Auburn definitely deserved the win, they’re simply a better team and played a better game. Oregon plays with effort, but they need more than that. A lot of learning opportunities from this game but I won’t lie I’m quite disappointed in the lack of progression from Shelstad and Bittle over the offseason. Hopefully we see more from them going forward. Simpkins shot well but was a TO machine, some of it due to chemistry. And my gosh Stewart should not be able to leave practice until he’s made at least 10 free throws in a row.

We just can’t seem to freaking beat Auburn.


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[whosyourwally]

Bittle and Shelstad were a combined 6 of 28 tonight…. 2 for 15 from 3, one of those a bank shot.

As Altman said, as go those two, so goes the team.


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[OregonFan4Life]

Bittle and Shelstad were a combined 6 of 28 tonight…. 2 for 15 from 3, one of those a bank shot.

As Altman said, as go those two, so goes the team.


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Nobody has a great shooting night every night. If this team just simply relies on how those two shoot they aren’t going to go far this season. I expected more from them this season, and it’s early so maybe we will see more, but if they continue to play like this on bad shooting nights that’s quite disappointing. They both are lacking the ability to consistently create their own shoot or shots for others.


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[Ghost of Tajuan Porter]

I think the bottom line is that this is just a really poorly constructed team. Hard to win games when you can’t shoot. This team’s only chance at winning this season is going to be figuring out how to get the ball inside to score at the rim consistently.

I think another huge problem with this team is that they don’t have anyone that can create shots for Shelstad. 100% of his shots right now are coming off the dribble. He’s never going to hit at a high percentage when that’s the case. Absolutely awful shooting night for him, and I expect that to continue unless someone can figure out how to penetrate and kick the ball out to him. He’s capable of hitting at 40% from three, but he’s going to be sub-30% if all of his shots are coming off the dribble.

I’m also really concerned about the way Altman is using Wei Lin. He’s clearly lost in the offense and forcing up ridiculously bad shots right now that are going in at a comically low rate… But we’ve seen flashes of brilliance from him. The first shot he hit tonight was a pro-level, high-IQ play, and the three he hit might have been the first catch-and-shoot three he’s taken all season. Everything else has been garbage that he’s forced up off the dribble. But he’s also the only player other than Shelstad that has shown the ability to create a shot for someone else. I hope he starts seeing more minutes. If he can get comfortable with the offense and stop forcing the 1v1 stuff, he could be a difference maker this season The only way he settles in is through playing more minutes, though, and he won’t be a weapon in the second half of the season if he doesn’t play now.

Seeing Simpkins basically shoot 5/6 from three was really encouraging (his last couple attempts were forced up in garbage time). Obviously the 8 turnovers and 0 assists is beyond unacceptable, but maybe he can turn into a catch and shoot three point guy. He’s got a long history of poor shooting, but so did Omoruyi and he turned into a legit threat from deep. I’ve made my opinion of Simpkins known, but I’d be thrilled to be wrong about him. If he can be a 40% three point shooter I’ll be thrilled and happily eat crow.

The last thing I’ll say is that I really love watching Stewart and Pryor. Neither have good touch, but they’re both hyper-athletic and they get after it as hard as anyone we’ve had since Elgin Cook. I love watching those guys fight for the ball. There’s no quit in either of them.

I have a feeling Altman is going to work his magic with this team, and they’re going to come on strong at the end of the season. He has a lot more to work with right now than he has in the last few seasons. I’m just expecting some growing pains.

And where the hell is Vatan??? He looked like he might be a difference maker this season.

[Everythingsducky]

Shelstad just plain sucked tonight. The offense couldn’t get set at all. That is on the point guard. Can’t get balls to Bittle or ANYONE, so you lose. It’s on Shelstad. Turnovers obviously crushed them, but with so many new faces, it’s bound to happen. I hate NIL, and I hate today’s college game. It is wrecked. Don’t know the freaking players or their history, don’t care to take the time to look up four different college careers histories of each player. MIND NUMBING.

[greenyellow]

Vatan has a foot injury that's going to sideline him for a while.

[greenyellow]

Even with all their turnover issues tonight, Oregon was in this game almost the entire way, which shows they are improving and there's some potential still left to be untapped. They look like a team with a bunch of new players who are continuing to learn how to play with one another. Them starting practice almost a month later than everyone else (due to Oregon being on the quarter system) and then losing Shelstad for 6 weeks has slowed their progress. As long as they stay healthy, I don't see why Altman can't work his magic with this team.

[UOducksTK1]

I think the bottom line is that this is just a really poorly constructed team. Hard to win games when you can’t shoot. This team’s only chance at winning this season is going to be figuring out how to get the ball inside to score at the rim consistently.

I think another huge problem with this team is that they don’t have anyone that can create shots for Shelstad. 100% of his shots right now are coming off the dribble. He’s never going to hit at a high percentage when that’s the case. Absolutely awful shooting night for him, and I expect that to continue unless someone can figure out how to penetrate and kick the ball out to him. He’s capable of hitting at 40% from three, but he’s going to be sub-30% if all of his shots are coming off the dribble.

I’m also really concerned about the way Altman is using Wei Lin. He’s clearly lost in the offense and forcing up ridiculously bad shots right now that are going in at a comically low rate… But we’ve seen flashes of brilliance from him. The first shot he hit tonight was a pro-level, high-IQ play, and the three he hit might have been the first catch-and-shoot three he’s taken all season. Everything else has been garbage that he’s forced up off the dribble. But he’s also the only player other than Shelstad that has shown the ability to create a shot for someone else. I hope he starts seeing more minutes. If he can get comfortable with the offense and stop forcing the 1v1 stuff, he could be a difference maker this season The only way he settles in is through playing more minutes, though, and he won’t be a weapon in the second half of the season if he doesn’t play now.

Seeing Simpkins basically shoot 5/6 from three was really encouraging (his last couple attempts were forced up in garbage time). Obviously the 8 turnovers and 0 assists is beyond unacceptable, but maybe he can turn into a catch and shoot three point guy. He’s got a long history of poor shooting, but so did Omoruyi and he turned into a legit threat from deep. I’ve made my opinion of Simpkins known, but I’d be thrilled to be wrong about him. If he can be a 40% three point shooter I’ll be thrilled and happily eat crow.

The last thing I’ll say is that I really love watching Stewart and Pryor. Neither have good touch, but they’re both hyper-athletic and they get after it as hard as anyone we’ve had since Elgin Cook. I love watching those guys fight for the ball. There’s no quit in either of them.

I have a feeling Altman is going to work his magic with this team, and they’re going to come on strong at the end of the season. He has a lot more to work with right now than he has in the last few seasons. I’m just expecting some growing pains.

And where the hell is Vatan??? He looked like he might be a difference maker this season.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with some of your points... BUT IMO we did enough to win this game if we turned it over to a similar amount as Auburn. Shelstad had probably the worst game he'll have all season and Bittle couldn't find his groove, yet Ducks were leading with 10 minutes left in the game. Not only did we turn it over 13 times more than Auburn, but in the 2nd half, they scored on a lot of those turnovers. We gave them gifts when overall our D was pretty solid. And our rebounding was outstanding.

Our shooting isn't good, but if we rebound and play D like we did last night, our shooting doesn't need to be great. Turnovers cost us this game, and nearly cost us against Hawaii.

[UOducksTK1]

Even with all their turnover issues tonight, Oregon was in this game almost the entire way, which shows they are improving and there's some potential still left to be untapped. They look like a team with a bunch of new players who are continuing to learn how to play with one another. Them starting practice almost a month later than everyone else (due to Oregon being on the quarter system) and then losing Shelstad for 6 weeks has slowed their progress. As long as they stay healthy, I don't see why Altman can't work his magic with this team.

This is how I feel. Auburn is a solid squad so to be in it most the game with them when our 2 best players were having off days was incredible IMO. And a lot of auxiliary guys played hard, which was so encouraging as well!

I am more optimistic for the Ducks after this game then I was before it.

[StevensTechU]

Auburn getting crushed by Michigan, 59-31 at halftime. It might be the case that we played better than expected yesterday but also that Auburn isn't as good of a team as their ranking indicates.

Also, before anyone decides they want to quote me months or years in the future, let me be clear that I'm not saying Shelstad is bad. He's just one of my least favorite players ever. The pull-up 45 footers with 30 seconds on the shot clock and the running around the entire shot clock before dumping the ball in someone's lap as it expires just drives me too crazy for the late -game heroics to make up for it.

[UOducksTK1]

Yikes^

Michigan is cleaning up.