PLEASE NO MEHRINGER LANNING!

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Most of the offensive coaching needs to be gone. They either made the plays, or had a significant interest in the plannings. But Lanning needs someone to call plays. Guaranteed high level donors will be in Mullens face tomorrow morning. Hoping for a happy headline when I read the news in the morning.
Here's the thing, the Ducks could get better by cleaning house and bringing in consultants. Pretty sure Jonathan Smith and Mark Helfrich would be interesting in being in the booth for a few weeks. And probably countless others too would hop in a private jet to spend a few weekends coaching the Ducks. Meanwhile that injects juice into the program and the athletes can start unlearning their bad habits. Might even keep the donor money flowing and stop some players from entering the portal.

Complacency is the only reason not to.

Again (AGAIN!) this has been my issue with this coaching staff for a couple years now. We see all this talk and all these polished videos (which I love) about the team being connected, and driven, and giving their best, and fighting for their brothers, yada yada yada. But then we've seen repeated instances (even during wins) when the coaches clearly aren't giving their best efforts. And now here we are, with the team reeling, CLEARLY failed by the coaching staff, and we still have to wonder whether Lanning will remove the incompetence from the building. Failure to do so is COMPLACENCY!!! It starts at the top, and Lanning must understand this or he'll never be great.

I'll actually be incredibly happy with this season if it forces Lanning to grow up and accept his weaknesses. You can't overcome your weaknesses until you accept them. If this season turns out to be a huge "fast forward" button then it will be a massive win for everyone connected to the program.
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pezsez1 wrote:Coach Meh will not be here next season. Therefore, there is no reason for him to still be here now. FIRE HIM ASAP!!! Turn the page. The goal now is getting guys (and remaining coaches) ready for next season. It doesn't matter if we lose another game or two with Coach Meh being gone. Does anyone actually still believe that losing him would hurt us in any way? Dan Lanning is hemorrhaging credibility, and firing Meh is the only way to stop the bleeding.
This is the only argument needed, IMO. If Mehringer isn’t going to be OC next year then there’s no reason to keep him at OC this year, and he should probably just be fired.

If Dan’s actually planning to keep him then it’s all moot because Lanning won’t be here much longer anyways.

Also, as encouraging as the defense has been, they’ve had two great performances in 6 games (the PSU game doesn’t count). Two. I realize they were screwed by the offense but they were still completely unprepared to start the season. The defensive staff isn’t exactly above reproach either.
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I’m personally fine if we see this defensive coaching staff next season, only change I’d like to see is a full time safety coach so Hampton can be a full time DC. I feel that since Hampton’s promotion safety plays has declined a bit.

I think we do need to criticize Dan a lot more. He’s the head coach, he has control. Travis Rooke-Ley brought this up, but when the OC is calling a piss poor game and abandoning the run game way too early when it finally works and we are missing 4 of our top 5 receivers, where’s Dan to call for the run game and more 12 personnel? Why does Drew have full freedom to call such an awful game when anyone with eyes can see for a few weeks now he’s incompetent? Ever since the Penn State Dan hasn’t been the same. I can’t help but wonder if Dan is like an alcoholic or something with his emotionless stance during the game and the way he repeats himself every postgame conference, he just regurgitates the same speech. Something is up with Dan and I really miss 2024 Dan Lanning.


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Pretty evident that firing the OC was necessary and more heads will likely roll when a new OC is hired. Beyond what is fair to call a failed experiment with Meh, I think there is also a deficiency in evolving with the current landscape of the game that hiring a top notch proven OC won't solve on it's own. One issue is managing these immature players (always a challenge in the past) now that they have money burning holes in their pockets. Imagine how much more difficult it would be to keep past problem children like Cliff Harris or Colt Lyerla reeled in if they were receiving six figure paychecks. The other big thing I see as a deficiency and I have not seen discussed is use of tech, more specifically using AI to break down film for both team development and opponent scouting. A quick search revealed that specialized AI's exist for this purpose and it's highly probable that teams that seemed to know our plays and tells are using it. An older, more established OC (and Dan), will need some young tech guys to establish an AI system to evaluate film both for team development and game planning.
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If anything, the advent of AI (and the fact that everyone has access to it) is exactly why we need a true offensive guru to run our offense. AI is pretty neat, but it's also very imperfect, and anyone who leans too heavily on it is vulnerable. Who knows, maybe that's where Meh screwed up.
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Simply pointing out that use of AI is part of the game now and a likely explanation for when teams seemed to know our play calls like they were 'in the huddle'. Dante's stance and other tells were likely discovered using AI by opponents and could have been known factors if Oregon was using it to self diagnose. IMO, Oregon must hire a proven OC as I don't think that taking a chance on another 'up & comer' would be acceptable to the AD, PK or the fan base. AI is now a must have tool for staff and if they are not using it, they will be, and that element doesn't likely come with any well established coach regardless of position (OC, DC, etc...).
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