Big Ten rebrand?

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Re: Big Ten rebrand?

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UOducksTK1 wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:02 pm
duckpoint wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:39 am By "associations", do yo mean conferences or?
Oh I meant more of why even be a college student anymore? If it's turning into minor professional league, no other minor league has classes to take, so would such a scenario remove the college/student aspect?
Is it possible to cut ties to the universities? Sure. Is it likely? IMO no. Most likely that it forms as an 'elite' college division and the lower divisions would be more or less like the A & AA of the baseball farm system for transferring up or getting sent down if the new league can contractualize the student athletes 'employee' status due to NIL & revenue sharing. Completely divorcing from the universities while being potentially desirable to entities like BCS Properties LLC and media like ESPN to cut off the universities from the revenue, it would take a complete rebranding, Alabama would no longer be Alabama, Ohio State would no longer be Ohio State, etc... The loss of established brands and built in fan bases would greatly diminish the value. It would be essentially a new USFL. It is also worth noting that it is the two major college conferences that are driving this makes it unlikely to disassociate with universities.

We know that contractual obligations of the current 12 team playoff system ends this year and the talk of a big expansion is ongoing.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say
The Big Ten has considered an idea of a massive expansion of the College Football Playoff that would grow the postseason to 24 or 28 teams, sources told ESPN.

While the idea is in the very early stages, the proposal eliminates conference title games and offers a large number of auto bids for all four power leagues, sources said.

For example, in the 28-team model, the Big Ten and SEC would each get seven auto bids while the ACC and Big 12 would each receive five. There would be two auto bids for the non-Power 4 conferences and two at-large teams.
IMO, any expansion similar to this will be designed to create more problems than it solves and will increase a perceived necessity for a new 'elite' league, which I think was a determined end goal going back to the conference expansions of 2011 +/-. Whatever format is decided upon, the term of the new contract will be set to ride out the existing media contracts of the teams targeted for the next conference expansion, Clemson, FSU, Miami, etc... further gutting the ACC & Big 12 creating a greater division of the 'big 4" which is already a joke as evidenced by the proposed allocation of playoff slots above (Big 10 & SEC 7 each, Big 12 & ACC 5 each). All other conferences are already rendered insignificant as evidenced by the proposed allocation of 4 playoff slots guaranteed to 6 conferences and 2 at larges that could be awarded to the 'big 4' conferences.

The proposed playoff expansion would also expose BCS Properties LLC, which is the legal entity behind the CFB playoff, to another antitrust lawsuit and thus create another perceived need to create the new league.

To be clear, all of the above is just my speculation of where things are going and how & why we might get there...
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Re: Big Ten rebrand?

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duckpoint wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:25 pm
UOducksTK1 wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:02 pm
duckpoint wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:39 am By "associations", do yo mean conferences or?
Oh I meant more of why even be a college student anymore? If it's turning into minor professional league, no other minor league has classes to take, so would such a scenario remove the college/student aspect?
Is it possible to cut ties to the universities? Sure. Is it likely? IMO no. Most likely that it forms as an 'elite' college division and the lower divisions would be more or less like the A & AA of the baseball farm system for transferring up or getting sent down if the new league can contractualize the student athletes 'employee' status due to NIL & revenue sharing. Completely divorcing from the universities while being potentially desirable to entities like BCS Properties LLC and media like ESPN to cut off the universities from the revenue, it would take a complete rebranding, Alabama would no longer be Alabama, Ohio State would no longer be Ohio State, etc... The loss of established brands and built in fan bases would greatly diminish the value. It would be essentially a new USFL. It is also worth noting that it is the two major college conferences that are driving this makes it unlikely to disassociate with universities.

We know that contractual obligations of the current 12 team playoff system ends this year and the talk of a big expansion is ongoing.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say
The Big Ten has considered an idea of a massive expansion of the College Football Playoff that would grow the postseason to 24 or 28 teams, sources told ESPN.

While the idea is in the very early stages, the proposal eliminates conference title games and offers a large number of auto bids for all four power leagues, sources said.

For example, in the 28-team model, the Big Ten and SEC would each get seven auto bids while the ACC and Big 12 would each receive five. There would be two auto bids for the non-Power 4 conferences and two at-large teams.
IMO, any expansion similar to this will be designed to create more problems than it solves and will increase a perceived necessity for a new 'elite' league, which I think was a determined end goal going back to the conference expansions of 2011 +/-. Whatever format is decided upon, the term of the new contract will be set to ride out the existing media contracts of the teams targeted for the next conference expansion, Clemson, FSU, Miami, etc... further gutting the ACC & Big 12 creating a greater division of the 'big 4" which is already a joke as evidenced by the proposed allocation of playoff slots above (Big 10 & SEC 7 each, Big 12 & ACC 5 each). All other conferences are already rendered insignificant as evidenced by the proposed allocation of 4 playoff slots guaranteed to 6 conferences and 2 at larges that could be awarded to the 'big 4' conferences.

The proposed playoff expansion would also expose BCS Properties LLC, which is the legal entity behind the CFB playoff, to another antitrust lawsuit and thus create another perceived need to create the new league.

To be clear, all of the above is just my speculation of where things are going and how & why we might get there...
University, that's the word I was trying to find. You would lose the branding, but long term it does seem like it could make sense. I could also seeing athletes not wanting to go through the school aspect of being a semi-pro.

But anyway, at this point everything is on the table. So many changes...

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