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Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:54 pm
by greenyellow


Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:27 pm
by OfaFeather
I am hoping that being the underdog despite being undefeated, and beating the buckeyes once, give them the incentive to torch that field. I only worry about the layoff, sometimes too long of a layoff can be a bad thing.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:41 am
by nogerO
OfaFeather wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:27 pm I am hoping that being the underdog despite being undefeated, and beating the buckeyes once, give them the incentive to torch that field. I only worry about the layoff, sometimes too long of a layoff can be a bad thing.
We owe osu a beating at the Rose Bowl. How many of our players are from SoCal?

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:24 am
by Duck07
nogerO wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:41 am
We owe osu a beating at the Rose Bowl. How many of our players are from SoCal?
Actually probably as many as they have as there's only about 1 starter in Nikko Reed and about 3-4 reserves from CA who play this season. (23/126 ~18% of roster is from CA)

Cali has been hit hard by East Coast Schools since the Clay Helton days and its gotten worse under Riley and the pathetic showing by other former Pac schools to keep West Coast kids on the West Coast.

Offense: George Silva, Bryce Boulton, Lipe Moala, Gary Bryant Jr, Jurrion Dickey, Jack Ressler, Ryan Pellum, Dillon Gresham,

Defense: Aydin Breeland, Keyon Ware-Hudson, Jericho Johnson, Kamar Mothudi, Jerry Mixon, Dylan Williams, Nikko Reed, Daylen Austin, Jahlil Florence, Sione Laulea, Solomon Davis, Peyton Woodyard, Kingson Lopa, Rodrick Pleasant, Dakoda Fields.

For Ohio State their prize backup QB Julian Sayin is from Carlsbad, CA and their last star QB CJ Stroud was also a CA kid.

Josh Simmons the star LT who is injured, Kourt Williams LB are both CA kids.

Honestly as I did this, a fair amount of their top players are from Washington: Emeka Egbuka, JTT, Gee Scott. Caleb Downs is an AZ kid.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:23 am
by nogerO
Duck07 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:24 am
nogerO wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:41 am
We owe osu a beating at the Rose Bowl. How many of our players are from SoCal?
Actually probably as many as they have as there's only about 1 starter in Nikko Reed and about 3-4 reserves from CA who play this season. (23/126 ~18% of roster is from CA)

Cali has been hit hard by East Coast Schools since the Clay Helton days and its gotten worse under Riley and the pathetic showing by other former Pac schools to keep West Coast kids on the West Coast.

Offense: George Silva, Bryce Boulton, Lipe Moala, Gary Bryant Jr, Jurrion Dickey, Jack Ressler, Ryan Pellum, Dillon Gresham,

Defense: Aydin Breeland, Keyon Ware-Hudson, Jericho Johnson, Kamar Mothudi, Jerry Mixon, Dylan Williams, Nikko Reed, Daylen Austin, Jahlil Florence, Sione Laulea, Solomon Davis, Peyton Woodyard, Kingson Lopa, Rodrick Pleasant, Dakoda Fields.

For Ohio State their prize backup QB Julian Sayin is from Carlsbad, CA and their last star QB CJ Stroud was also a CA kid.

Josh Simmons the star LT who is injured, Kourt Williams LB are both CA kids.

Honestly as I did this, a fair amount of their top players are from Washington: Emeka Egbuka, JTT, Gee Scott. Caleb Downs is an AZ kid.
Thanks!

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:23 am
by StevensTechU
I don't buy the "Ohio State played poorly all year but now they're firing on all cylinders" story. The week before the ducks best them, tOSU beat Iowa 35-7, similar to the victory against Tennessee. They're the same team.

So comparing each team to itself when they played the first time:

Ohio State:
- Won't have to play in Autzen, where false starts materially affected the game (I believe they had 4 or 5)
- Has a worse offensive line than the first matchup, with their award winning center unavailable
- Still on the OL, LT Simmons went down mid-game so they had no time to train up the replacement; should be better this time
- Left 3 points on the board (if kicker can convert) at the end of the game due to poor clock management

Oregon:
- Will have Traeshon Holden for the entire game
- Will have Jordan Burch back
- Has made big strides on the offensive line since the early season
- Likely won't win an extra possession via a crazy onside kick, but also won't lose a possession via a missed INT review
- Missed extra point unlikely to occur again
- Kenyon Sadiq has become more of a weapon
- Left 6 points on the field due to a missed field goal and going for it on 4th down at the 2 yard line and getting stopped (+4 at the end of the game, depending on your view, bc they prioritized running clock at the goal line)
- Emarrion Winston played a lot of snaps at DT in this game to neutralize Howard's running ability; Winston isn't expected to be available for this game, but perhaps Purchase could play the same role (TBD)

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:30 am
by Duck07
I think Burch on Donovan Jackson at LT is a win for us because Burch can handle the strength better than Matayo. I also recall that the RT was one of the weaker graded OL for them coming into that game so letting Matayo go to battle against him seems like a big win on collapsing the backside of the pocket on Howard.

Burch, Harmon and Caldwell all have a chance at increasing their draft stock with big games and the same is true for our entire DB unit.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:18 pm
by lmduck
StevensTechU wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:23 am I don't buy the "Ohio State played poorly all year but now they're firing on all cylinders" story. The week before the ducks best them, tOSU beat Iowa 35-7, similar to the victory against Tennessee. They're the same team.

So comparing each team to itself when they played the first time:

Ohio State:
- Won't have to play in Autzen, where false starts materially affected the game (I believe they had 4 or 5)
- Has a worse offensive line than the first matchup, with their award winning center unavailable
- Still on the OL, LT Simmons went down mid-game so they had no time to train up the replacement; should be better this time
- Left 3 points on the board (if kicker can convert) at the end of the game due to poor clock management

Oregon:
- Will have Traeshon Holden for the entire game
- Will have Jordan Burch back
- Has made big strides on the offensive line since the early season
- Likely won't win an extra possession via a crazy onside kick, but also won't lose a possession via a missed INT review
- Missed extra point unlikely to occur again
- Kenyon Sadiq has become more of a weapon
- Left 6 points on the field due to a missed field goal and going for it on 4th down at the 2 yard line and getting stopped (+4 at the end of the game, depending on your view, bc they prioritized running clock at the goal line)
- Emarrion Winston played a lot of snaps at DT in this game to neutralize Howard's running ability; Winston isn't expected to be available for this game, but perhaps Purchase could play the same role (TBD)
Word was Purchase was injured early in the season hence no action in the October game. Supposedly is fully healthy now.

We'll find out in due time.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:56 pm
by OregonFan4Life
Decided to read the Ohio State forum for fun, wow that is quite the hot and cold fanbase! They’re so very confident they get revenge on Oregon, we shall see. It’s gonna be a tough one for sure.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:25 pm
by greenyellow
I don't think what Ohio State did to Tennessee was all that special. The Vols were down their top RB and many of their best WRs were injured/missing so the Buckeyes were not scared of their offense. If Oregon had played Tennessee, it probably would have been just as bad of a beatdown.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:50 pm
by UOducksTK1
OregonFan4Life wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:56 pm Decided to read the Ohio State forum for fun, wow that is quite the hot and cold fanbase! They’re so very confident they get revenge on Oregon, we shall see. It’s gonna be a tough one for sure.
Yeah, they're a cocky bunch right now. Would be so sweet to take them out again.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:21 pm
by greenyellow


Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:15 pm
by Duck07

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:46 am
by Phalanx
greenyellow wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:25 pm I don't think what Ohio State did to Tennessee was all that special. The Vols were down their top RB and many of their best WRs were injured/missing so the Buckeyes were not scared of their offense. If Oregon had played Tennessee, it probably would have been just as bad of a beatdown.
I actually think the same about Georgia and Texas. I think it's pretty funny when pundits are still picking them to win it all, Georgia without their starting QB and Texas having essentially the same resume as Indiana to date. None of these SEC teams are as good as they are supposed to be. I will be surprised if the final is not 2 Big 10 teams.

Re: CFP Quarterfinal Rose Bowl: Oregon vs Ohio State (Jan. 1, Wed 2 PM ESPN)

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:48 am
by 5$
nogerO wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:15 am
UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:56 am Ohio state favored by 2.5 right now.
Opened at 1.5
I watched the line starting during the Tennessee game. Oregon was ahead -0.5 and exactly at game end it immediately began to move to Ohio St. I wonder if sports betting being legal in Ohio has anything to do with it?